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yes it does, TSMC has immense profits, and their profits are growing 30% YoY


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The TSMC profit margin is impressive. Looks like 45%.

TSMC made $11B in profit in 2018, and that's only going up.

This is definitely creating value for TSMC shareholders, and for it's country (taxes).

TSMC's gross margin is something like 50% iirc so it's not even that bad

Where do those profits go? Presumably TSMC doesn't just sit on it. Surely they either invest it back into their business to stay competitive or deal it out as compensation.

No, TSMC's revenue is $40B, it's market cap (the minimum cost if someone tried to buy it right now) is $389B.

TSMC isn’t a purely monetary profit driven company, though your right usually they do business as if they were. Because 100% of something is much different than 99% in B2B and at this scale. Though of course TSMC is a bit special because they are comfortably ahead on something that the only possible competitors are even more unlikely to do exclusivity.

Not in the case of TSMC, no.

There was an interesting slide from a few years back that showed the net profit (less investment) of all the leading edge contract foundries since the founding of TSMC. It was very easy to see that since then, TSMC has earned more than the total net profit of the industry. Everyone else invests a lot of money to maybe stay somewhat competitive and still lose money, while TSMC is swimming in it.

This is just situation normal.

Sadly I could not find the slide online.


Yeah but certainly all of the work TSMC’s customers account for something there too. Doesn’t seem like an apples to apples comparison.

One factor you are missing in that analysis: TSMC is very profitable—about $5 billion per quarter. Better working conditions don't have to mean more expensive products; it could instead mean reduced profits.

https://focustaiwan.tw/business/202110140010


TSMC had 70+ billion USD in revenue last year. There’s plenty of data worth 70 million dollars to them

You're looking at the wrong company. TSMC has a margin of 40%.

A lot of companies moved production to TSMC to increase profits. Now they pay.

Shouldn't TSMC be the most valuable company in the world then?

TSMC is far from poor

TSMC made over $200 billion in profit last year. Higher salaries stop mattering at some point for most people.

I believe TSMC is 50% owned by US companies.

TSMC has a long history of increasing double digit profit margins, in the range of $10B+ per year, and is amongst the most profitable businesses in the world. I would err on the side of TSMC deciding not to pay sufficiently to incentivize labor (which may still be the optimal move for TSMC).

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSM/taiwan-semicon...

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSM/taiwan-semicon...

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