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"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."


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I enjoyed this very much, thank you

Here’s a snippet for anyone interested

  "So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."
"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."

  "That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."

Actually, the story doesn't say that it's machines if I can see correctly. It might just as well be other evolved organisms, just not protein/"meat" based.

That depends on how you look at it. From the perspective of meat machines, sure. But from the perspective of general intelligences, which have some ancestry in meat machines, not at all. Just something that happened way back when. Like electrical engineering.

"We hoped our machines would automate our work and make us free. Instead they turned us into automatas."

I find the "human consumption" here funny, because it's the "human" part which led the author to turn to machines which can do it better.

> The narrator

It's a machine.


One of their mottos was, "Building a machine that will be proud of us."

"It's the man, not the machine."* - Chuck Yeager

* "Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless."**

It's the man and the machine together as a super-organism.

** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifleman%27s_Creed

Disclaimer: I played with a Da Vinci prototype sewing grapes but I'm definitely no surgeon. My hands shake more than someone with Parkinson's. I cannot fathom subsequent generations of refinements in steadier hands with surgical experience. Clarke's third law applies here. Although, I wonder before how long AI and mechatronics will receive credit for simple veterinary surgeries as a testbed on the path to a truly miraculous, sci-fi "surgical chamber".


Where does it say that he used machines?

> Maybe they’ll finally figure out the belt system /s

Look, they're just machines, they're not miracle workers ;-)


"Machine That Eats Idiots 'Requires More Sacrifices', Says Machine Operator"

"It's not us, it's the machine that we operate".

"machines" ;)

"If you cannot already do the machine’s job by hand, the machine will outwit you."

Raney Nelson http://www.daedtoolworks.com/lounge-against-the-machine-daed...


"I can totally reach into the back of this gigantic, flesh eating machine to move that widget a little bit to the right. Management might give me a raise for saving them money!" -famous last words of a former factory worker.

the "machine", man

"Having a machine to do it for you, to me, is a natural extension of your mind"

To you, just to you, really.


Let us remember that the automatic machine is the precise economic equivalent of slave labor. Any labor which competes with slave labor must accept the economic consequences of slave labor.

- Norbert Weiner, Cybernetics: Or Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine


> Calling this a machine is like calling the first car a horseless carriage.

So it's an excellent description which leverages an analogy everyone is currently familiar with? :P

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