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"An engineer can do for a dime, what any idiot can do for a dollar" - Someone else

[edit] Achshually "An engineer can do for a dollar what any fool can do for two" - Arthur C. Wellington



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"WHY do these supposedly smart engineers make decisions I don’t get?"

There's a quote: engineers can do for $1 what any fool can do for $2 (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1009994-an-engineer-can-do-...)

So an engineer that made a system that was 1/5000 the speed and thousands of times the cost of a $45 computer wouldn't be a smart engineer. They'd be history's shittiest engineer ever.

Web3 people aren't good engineers. At all.


>any idiot can make a high quality product by using expensive materials, but good engineering is bring a high quality product to market at an attractive price.

it's a cute sentiment, but it throws out on-the-edge engineering work that produces little product, or engineering that is subsidized elsewhere where the cash value is of little importance.

For example, I never thought the fine folks engineering at NASA were idiots, nor the people at defense groups like Northrop Grumman -- but i'd hardly call their wares a good 'cash value'.


> There’s also another category of people. Good (sometimes brilliant, even) engineers who know exactly what they’re doing but who simply don’t care enough to do the right thing.

Sometimes not doing the right thing is the right thing to do.


> An engineer who can’t admit they don’t know something when it matters is...

a bad engineer.


"Academics get paid for being clever, not for being right." -- Donald Norman

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Engineers get paid for not being wrong.


> The 1x engineer talks about their car and weekend, the 10x engineer talks about technology.

Probably because the 1x engineer isn’t a complete moron.

You would have to be a complete moron to really care about any of this crap, unless of course you’re helping people. However- you’re not. And if you are, good for you.


It's ironic how you replaced "millionaires" in that quote since many engineers are now millionaires.

> an engineer is someone working on something they know everything about.

That seems completely contrary to my engineering training. The engineer motto is about "be prepared for the unexpected" i.e. escape hatches, manual override, overprovisioning, assume that your temporary "train", "power plant", "airplane" will be in service for 40 years instead of 20, make it serviceable even without infrastructure.


> One guy, a former electrical engineer,

I noticed it's often the engineers that are in over their head, more than regular people


>If you do the same things engineers do, you are an engineer

A very American perspective!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Council_of_Profession...


>This made me reconsider my opinion

Why? Plenty of engineers are complete idiots in many levels.


> for average engineers that just want to get paid

????e?d??' (fl 300 BC) hot take: https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Euclid/#:~...


> engineers are not human beings

That's funny, all the engineers I've known have been.

What crowd have you been hanging out with? :)


> ...but hey, the internet is full of really talented smart people who do excellent engineering work.

It's actually not. It's full of average people who do mediocre engineering.


"explain it like I’m an engineer?"

I am mooching that. Great phrase!


>I trust any engineer who responds with an “it depends..” over someone who has an absolute answer.

That heuristic matches on the hordes of liars who try and sound smart while hedging their claims with a liberal application of weasel words to avoid being provably wrong. And those people outnumber the "good engineers" probably by at least an order of magnitude...


"Engineers care less about equity, salary and benefits and more about the problems they’re going to be working on."

TIL I am not worthy of the title "Engineer"

I can work on interesting problems on my own time. Salary from some Schmoe's payroll account enables me to do that.


> I had my excuses. I don’t know crap about aesthetics. I majored in engineering– it’s almost a badge of pride to build something that looks awful. “I majored in engineering — it’s almost a badge of pride to build something that looks awful.”

I guess whoever did the pull-quotes was also an engineering-major...


> Indian engineers are street smart

If we are going to generalize, I would have to say the exact opposite. In my experience they are definitely smart and capable, but usually extremely naive and somewhat sheltered by western standards.

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