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Artists are some of the most Free Speech people out there. Going to be a hard sell.


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What are you talking about? Compelling an artist to create and sign a work is absolutely a free speech issue.

I hope other artists stand up for the same freedom of speech and expression that allow them to be artists.

It is funny that artists who should be champions of freedom of expression are calling this out and boycotting this particular expression.

If I was an artist I wouldn't want to risk my livelyhood on the assumption that nobody objected to what I did.

Piss Christs; naked statues; slaughtering a horse (in public) to protest the Vietnam war; putting ones shit in cans and sell those; etc are all things that artists have done that pisses people of.

Heck in the US you could be called an arse (or worse) if you salute the flag or if you don't.

They may still be able to legally ban them, political opinions (so long as they are not caused by a religious mandate) is not a protected class (though looking at how devided the US is, that maybe the end result), but given that a big target marked for your business is artists, why would you?


it would appear that they are attempting to hide behind free speech (creating an "artwork"). i'm certainly not a lawyer but this seems pretty transparent

Some one will use free art to make money and none of it will go to the artist without any sort of protections.

There are a few of those discussions going on in artist's circles these days. I imagine they'll get sued for doing this, but it'll probably take a very famous artist or a hell of a class action suit to make it happen.

The kicker that amazes me is that when artists register their incredulity and their offense about this, the randos pile into their mentions asking why they won't work with the people misappropriating their work in this way.

Can't imagine why not. Can't at all. Nope.


I don't think the artists get a special role in creating copyright laws since effectively those laws are an abridgment of the freedom of speech. We can speak our minds on this issue without having to ask their permission.

Given the course of recent history (i.e. ever expanding copyright terms and regulation), I don't see that more consideration for artists is warranted.


Artists have a choice in doing business with them, they don't have a choice in copyright infringement.

They're fringe extremists who are nevertheless the appointed representatives of vast numbers of artists, producers, and heavily-monied interests.

We're a bunch of angry people.

I have no problem with people expressing the outrage of the situation in strong language.

(That being said, I too am an artist and sympathize with their plight. I wouldn't like some of you do away with copyright outright. But these laws as written are shackles and chains on our artists and culture as well.)


In that case the artist is protecting themselves from possible issues, much like Weird Al gets permission from everyone he parodies even though he doesn't have to.

I'm quite sure that visual art has been recognized as having First Amendment coverage for well over a century.

I am.

These are the consequences of your own rhetoric. You are ignoring them for cheap shots to take the moral high ground. You can’t just say “I’m the side of artists” and conclude that you’re doing good. Your rule set is VERY WEAK and prone to abuse. It will not meaningfully protect artists at all.


Because the press would destroy them if they would dare to target art created by a black woman for example.

Not to mention that they would probably be arrested for hate crimes too in that case.


As long as these works aren’t locked away. Feel free to not promote them publicly, but denying access to the works of immoral creatives is akin to burning books. Let the art stand on its own, especially if the creative is no longer alive.

Even when the art was temporary (cardboard & duct tape) and he's seemingly been arrested because of the content of his art?

This is a free speech issue, not a "save the street artists" effort.


Absolutely agree. It is called 'artistic freedom' after all. Right?

That would make sense to me. It shouldn't be legal for anyone who's seen popular culture to become an artist.
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