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Additionally, it appears a route from Allegheny County Airport to Mill 19 would not have crossed the bridge in Frick Park.

https://goo.gl/maps/9UF4kL1bxNvAFjx96



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Interesting. I guess that spar wasn't critical https://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2022/01/28/pittsburg...

Made a whopper of a mistake. Pittsburgh has over 2000 bridges.

Directions are routed away from the bridge while it's closed, so maybe they removed it for this reason.

So, I actually did look this up four days ago, but it seems that PennDOT changed their website? https://www.penndot.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/Bridges/Pages/def... Those excel spreadsheets don't seem to do anything when I click on them.

The note I took was "There are 25,437 bridges in PA. 9.59% of them were rated in “poor” condition last month, with only 34.37% of them being “good”". The original sheet was broken out by county, with Allegheny County basically being the same as the city of Pittsburgh in this regard.

> I just wanted to clarify that, as much as Pittsburgh may be particularly problematic, its infrastructure issues were still replicated across most of the US.

Absolutely, it is an issue everywhere for sure.


I don't really know the significance of this, it just looks like an error to me and it's certainly not news that errors exist.

A quick Google search and apparently there's a new section of the bridge opening or something? I still don't quite see why this is significant?


Compare the satellite imagery from 2023, which clearly shows the bridge is out:

https://i.imgur.com/WXIxLtp.jpg

with the Street View record from 2012:

https://i.imgur.com/cen89bg.jpg

I agree that it's negligent to not have barriers or signs, and I feel terrible for the daughters and wife mourning the loss of their father, but I think it's shocking that someone would drive off a bridge that you can see is out from the air. For the past decade, hundreds to thousands of residents and delivery drivers and visitors to this neighborhood were likely given these same directions but did not die there. They saw that the bridge was out and turned around. It's a residential neighborhood; there will be no signage that says a child or dog is in the road! This is not a situation for an instruments-only landing in a plane, you have to keep your eyes outside the cockpit, even if your instruments say to drive on.

Edit - I also find it interesting that Google's map still shows the road as connected, but (now) refuses to route you over it, while Bing Maps shows the road as disconnected:

https://i.imgur.com/D9dRF1B.png

https://i.imgur.com/4NcTIxZ.png

Maps link:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7815814,-81.2828119,82m/data...


there are many bridges like this all over Pittsburgh

This is the really scary part. Given PGH's geography, it is nearly impossible to travel through the city in an efficient way without crossing a bridge.

Also, let's not forget the sinkhole incident[0].

[0] https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2019/10/28/port-authority-bu...


Such a shame! I was really looking forward to a reactivated rail connection across that bridge.

In Philly, they sacrificed some of the road underneath it and narrowed the traffic lanes over the bridge to enable a very quick, albeit temporary repair. There’s no such option for a span of this length over a river — this is a decade long project that could potentially be sped up to be a years long one.

> Which bridge that is currently in operation should be closed next?

The article/video actually touches on this:

> The City of Pittsburgh quadrupled their spending on inspection, maintenance, and repairs. And they redid the load ratings on all the bridges they owned, resulting in one bridge being closed until it can be rehabilitated and two more having lane restrictions imposed.

I don't know which one bridge it is, though.


Another comment showed the Google link where the route was blocked which got me interested. And the solution is: the bridge is mapped as one-way street :) ! (try swapping the start+end and it won't pass the bridge)

Very confusing... any maybe the reason why it has been not properly fixed.


Article says it was a privately maintained bridge and none of the relevant property owners fixed it.

I believe my family and I drove over this bridge, when we were in Pittsburgh 4 years ago.

I hate to say this, but the condition of bridges like this is one of the major reasons that Pennsylvania currently has one of the highest gas taxes in the country.

And whatever PennDOT is spending the tax money on, this bridge-- in one of the two largest cities in our state-- collapsed anyway.


That page is out of date — the crossing at 25th has already been rebuilt to no longer be at-grade.

Check out a few of the bridges rated poor on this map:

https://gis.penndot.gov/paprojects/BridgeConditionsMap.aspx

... and find some that pass over other roads, and you can find other instances:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4562613,-79.9736136,3a,52.6y...


  a half-billion dollar cable car to the Oakland airport
... which was suspended mid-construction for several years.

The empty trestles over Hegenberger were reminiscent of the "Freeway to Nowhere" (the 280/680/101 interchange in San Jose).


Text for anyone who can't access it:

>"@Pgh311 I hope someone is keeping an eye on the underside of the Forbes Avenue bridge over Frick Park? One of the big "X" beams is rusted through entirely (and, yes, I see the cables, so it's probably not a crisis)." -Dr. G Kochanski @gpk320

>"Service Request #307260 has been created. https://qalert.me/GRea13511a408a4282815637644fd5a13a" -Pittsburgh 311 Response Center @Pgh311


Some other bridges have barriers around, but not connecting to the pylons.

On the duffy, but there are no one-lane bridges on the s2s.
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