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Zelensky has broad cultural appeal in Ukraine (or you could frame it as "he's not polarizing and isn't hated by a large fraction of the country" which I think is the better way to look at it). How else would someone become president with such a limited political background? Killing him would be a textbook way to make a martyr.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the Russians to read the ideological room. The details of this operation seems predicated on Russian misunderstanding of who they were dealing with. An entire generation has grown up living with the background threat of Russian aggression and this point has really been driven home sine 2014. Expecting the people and leaders of Ukraine to not be mentally prepared for that comes across like the nation state version of the feds showing up on the doorstep of a bunch of apocalypse preaching crazies expecting an easy win and then being baffled that their victims prefer to die together.

Or something might happen and Ukraine might just roll over. Nobody knows yet. Time will tell.



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Yeah right. Read this NYT article about Ihor Kolomoisky, the guy allegedly behind Zelenskyy's rise to power and do some serious thinking.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191123115230/https://www.nytim...


The Russian government may want to kill him, but so should the Ukrainian one, seeing as Zelensky's earlier offshore activities are also detailed. No media outlets cover this though...

The absense of such campaign would mean that Kremlin has so low esteem of Zelensky that they think any replacement would be to their detriment. And this is even after taking the collateral damage to the Ukrainian image as a whole into account.

It’s not far-fetched it’s just a regular day out here.

Previously it was the other way around — to be in office yourself and book profits for your son in law (Kuchma—Pinchuk) or other related person. Conflict of interest? Never heard about that.

This was commercialized and outsourced at some point, but only at MP level, so you could enjoy Presidential impunity yourself.

Zelensky happened as a controlled exit strategy because all other contenders had highly toxic reputations to assume office for themselves after being in some office or another for nearly 30 years, so it was a chance that somebody really from the outside would get ir


Oh so Zelensky could just travel to Moscow? And nothing would happen to him? Since he has diplomatic immunity as the president of Ukraine?

Whatever your answer will be, replace "Zelensky" in it with "Putin" and see if you would still stand behind it.


Out of curiosity, what has Zelensky done to improve Ukraine before the war, other than not being a Kremlin puppet?

As I understood it, before the war he was sliding down in the polls, becoming unpopular because there haven't been the massive crackdowns on corruptions he was campaigning for (like in his TV show), with him also being uncovered in the Pandora papers as having various hidden assets [1] and only his resistance to the Russian making him the most popular leader ever.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-o...


> But Zelenskyy was serious in cleaning up the Ukraine, he is not fleeing and he is uniting the nation.

He's not that clean himself, given that he was mentioned as holding offshore finances in the Pandora Papers leak.

Also he invested in the production company (Kvartal 95) that then created the show 'Servant of the People' where he was shot to stardom playing the role of a teacher elected president. The company then also paid to create a real party named 'Servant of the People' and managed to get him elected as president for real!!

https://www.occrp.org/en/the-pandora-papers/pandora-papers-r...

Where he got all that offshore money from is a question we can ponder. But it seems to me that he was primed for the position he is in.


What do you expect from him? Get sent to Gulag? Or end up in a ditch by pissing on the only country on planet where he could probably remain alive? And for what? A country that elected Trump? Or a western world for whom Ukraine carnage is crisis but pulling the trigger too many times to obliterate a suspected bad guy along with dozens of confirmed innocents civilian adults and children and call it calculated decision “in the interest of citizens of a white nation”?

What he's doing in Ukraine is example of impulsive actions. Crimean scenario, I believe, was planned during the past decade or so.

I assume the plan was to go to Kiev, get rid of the government and install a Putin stooge. Had:

>Zelensky rejects US evacuation offer: I need ammunition, ‘not a ride’

gone the other way it probably would have worked.


Looks like Zelensky is not too enough hard core Jew for his taste or he is controlled by FSB like any other religious leader in Russia (especially of course Russian orthodox patriarch).

Do you realize that the Russians are literally threatening him openly because of the Ukrainian Starlink operation? The Kremlin mob has a lot of assassinations behind it, so their threat is absolutely credible, not a random brain fart on the Internet.

My theory is that he has a terminal illness. That would explain the intense fear of Covid, and would explain the rush to take all of Ukraine in one bite, rather than the methodical approach they've been taking over the last decade. Reconstituting the Russian empire is on his bucket list, and time is running out.

This press release might be true because their terms are effectively that they won't kill Zelensky if he unconditionally surrenders his country

Because Russia is trying to murder him.

It could be. He was accused of being a double agent so you probably are right. I think I am thinking too much. But it is interesting how the Russian president has often been portrayed when he could be a dud? Not as smart and strategic? Just thinking out loud so don't mind me hey haha...

I can't just can't fathom how a man so smart as he is often portrayed - with b*s and feared is head to head with the Ukrainian president. Did everyone get him wrong for years? Hmm...


could it be that him killing the leadership of ukraine, inserting his own puppets then leaving the country is his idea of "win" ?

leaving a buffer state in a mess is a good situation for him.


the panama papers were published in 2016. Zelensky was elected to office in 2019. i.e. while ukrainians might care that he was trying to avoid their taxman, anythign documented in them wasn't him looting the countrg or being an autocrat as he had never been involved with the government until that time.

There's a fundamental difference. I personally believe only one trying to obfuscate the issue would bring it up.


Assassinating someone on Russian soil is a great way to start a war. You seem to be assuming that it could be covered up successfully. History proves otherwise; all too often, the truth comes out eventually. And if he were assassinated, the party responsible would be fairly obvious early on, because there's only one country that would have the motivation to finance that operation.

Putin gives him protection because it lets him thumb his nose at the US.

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