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Not if the media are state controlled.


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In the US any media outlet that sends people to the white house press briefings is state controlled, so basically all of them. There is no mainstream media that isn't state controlled.

This is so wrong and a huge misunderstanding.

If the state has such a stranglehold on the public channels then that is the underlying problem. It would have the same control over private media if it needed to.

Public media and/or limited state support for private news media is absolutely vital for a functioning democracy.


Non-state owned media is hardly better in this regard.

State affiliated media means state has editorial control over it. Not that they get some money from government.

No. There is pro-government press and they restrict such news willingly. But there are slew of other media quite open about this.

Most media is state propaganda. Has literally always been.

In most countries media are licensed so they can't publish anything too harsh against the government.

I'm afraid it usually is - just think of ways to sway it. Now, I would love to agree it shouldn't be, but there is no concrete system I can think of that could decouple it well. Ownership of media by the state oftentimes makes it a propaganda arm of whichever party is ruling. Private ownership, even in case of heavy subsidies, implies ownership by capital...

In the US the media is neither state owned nor state controlled, with the exception of Voice of America.

The closest we have to state-owned is NPR, and if you think NPR is the lapdog of the government, you don't listen to NPR very much.


State controlled media is certainly bad, but that is not implied by state ownership. In my experience state owned organisations provide better quality journalism than their commercial counterparts, and the gap is widening as commercial media race each other to the bottom.

> Only the state media (NOS) is still independent

Isn't state media, by definition, not independent


You know that goverents frequently distribute their propaganda through media outlets that are not state owned, right?

Why would you only have state sponsored media? You also have private media that you pay for (newspapers).

there are state-sponsered media like BBC, etc.

> Turning state funded media into a partisan propaganda agency typically doesn't end well in a democracy.

Some would say that’s the inevitable result of state funded media.


> Western media in most western countries isn’t state controlled

Officially, you are right.


The only reason in theory for a place to put a "state media" label is to imply the State has editorial control.

All modern nations ( especially major nations ) have state media. No nation can exist without state media. Propaganda is a necessary condition for a nation.

All the major media companies are part of the state. If you think the NYTimes, Disney, CBS, etc are not part of the state, then you really haven't been paying attention.

The difference is that in some countries the state uses the government to control propaganda, in other countries the state uses the political party to control propaganda, in other countries the state uses money to control propaganda and in other countries it's a mishmash of some or all of these controls.

Also, there is a difference in level of control. Some assert total control while other have degrees of control to create an illusion of free press.


Actual question (not trying to be snarky):

Is Fox News considered state media, and if not, will it be?

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