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I'm not pinning anything on anyone. The parent comment claimed that "Russians like strong leaders" is a falsehood yet the history claims otherwise.


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Thank you for calling this out; the comment serves only to heighten animosity against your average Russian. I'm sure OP aimed it at the Kremlin leadership, but being precise here is important.

Citation needed. I see plenty of pro Russian commenters saying this.

DanG do you check if comments like this arent made by Russian propagandists?

Because this sounds like something from the "strong and weak at the same time" playbook.


The parent commenter didn’t say anything about civilian Russians.

That's a rather uncivil comment. You're replying to a commenter who's a self-proclaimed Russian patriot and nationalist. There's no need to go shouting about motiviations when they've already been laid on the table.

Not the OP, but, well, just as it could've been Russians, it could be North Koreans, Chinese, or anyone else. As a Russian, the comment just seemed unnecessary, though I'm obviously biased.

Comment history makes it clear that it is a Russian troll.

This is a discussion about the Russian government, it doesn't really have much to do with Russian people in general.

That is what the person I replied to actually said, and the comment I was clearly referring to; the point being of course, that a discussion of the Russian government has no more to do with the Russian people than the Russian government does.


Would love to read this comment but it's possible this is one of those Russian troll comments.

It's probably coming straight out of the Kremlin. We've all seen how they get someone elected and polarize nations.

Love the idea of a comment, but I care more about not enabling evil people from getting control.


This opinion is biased in favor of the Russian regime enough to assume it's a least inspired by Russian government supporters.

There probably is an anti-Putin sentiment, but there are good reasons for that. In any case, the post you replied to wasn't even pro-Putin and hasn't been punished by any anti-Putin bias on HN.

That was not crying wolf, and was not supporting Putin or Putin's misinformation. See other comment.

Given this particular user's comment history, they are very clearly here to push pro-Russian, anti-American narrative, and only that.

I'm not sure how these comments have anything to do with the way Russia is being run these days.

Perhaps it's because I'm not a native speaker but I have no idea what you're trying to tell me. I'm trying to take the most positive interpretation and that you're saying that you're putting me into some right-wing lunatic fringe corner that's somehow pro-Russia? I honestly don't know. And... you never asked a question?

Perhaps read this https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html, especially where it's about comments. I'm not the best example of always following them myself but I'm having a hard time extracting anyting of value from your comment. Sorry.


> But maybe you'd prefer to hear only one side?

False balance fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance

In the case of Navalny, there are mountains of evidence implicating Putin, including audio recording of a Russian agent admitting to a previous poisoning attempt [1].

> After all there's lots of privileged americans and westerners in HN userbase.

Ad hominem fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

> I still have more karma than you do, it means your contributions add less to the discussion than mine do, somehow

Obviously karma per comment is the more relevant metric here. Off-hand, I'd estimate you're in the lowest decile.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexei_Navalny#Te...


> As opposed to the non-downvotes and non-flagged comments parroting NATO propaganda with no sources whatsoever?

As if that makes your comment any more true. These comments are based on facts. Just because they support NATO doesn't mean that they are false. Your comment, unlike imaginary 'NATO propaganda', is completely divorced from reality and full of lies.

> Americans’ obsession with Russia is quite the thing.

Why did you assume that I'm American? I'm Ukrainian and know the history of my country better that some pro-russian stranger on the internet. And the 'obsession' is completely justified when russia keeps commiting war crimes, destroying cities and massacring civillians.

> There are other countries out there where disagree with you without being pro-Russian.

Disagreeing with US' actions is one thing, supporting russia is another. Your comment is clearly the latter.


Regardless of the veracity of the article, there's an unsurprising amount of pro-Russian astroturfing occurring in the comments.

However it's a very typical "no u" response to any criticism of Russia.
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