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burntoutfire · 2022-03-31 13:13:11

Similarly, fraud is "just words". This point of view seems to assume that words carry very little weight, while our civilization is based on them.

bern4444 | karma 1508 | avg karma 2.97 · | 2021-12-08 18:10:39

There is a word, it's fraud.

mdoms | karma 4657 | avg karma 2.45 · | 2022-03-02 17:37:22

No that's obviously not fraud. Words have meanings.

mikeash | karma 74524 | avg karma 3.52 · | 2017-09-20 18:59:33

Fraud is basically lying for profit. There's no profit in putting gibberish into this form, so it's just lying.

rabuse | karma 1125 | avg karma 2.3 · | 2024-04-28 18:59:20

It's called fraud. That word used to mean something.

tsimionescu | karma 17553 | avg karma 2.17 · | 2021-10-05 17:03:06

I think the parent is making a point about definitions - that the word fraud can only refer to illegal actions by definition. I think this is an overly literal interpretation of language' though.

chrisseaton | karma 36438 | avg karma 2.64 · | 2022-01-12 07:19:56

People describe anything and everything they don't agree with as 'fraud'.

geerlingguy | karma 19554 | avg karma 5.95 · | 2023-01-10 08:45:49

Simple: fraud

bigchewy | karma 321 | avg karma 4.01 · | 2018-05-19 04:38:35+00:00

I don't think you understand the definition of the words that you are saying. Consider looking up the definition of e.g. fraud

derbOac | karma 4453 | avg karma 2.66 · | 2022-06-05 09:15:03

Not disagreeing with what you wrote, but the word "fraud" itself implies a distinction between perceived and actual value.

hoffs | karma 252 | avg karma 1.16 · | 2023-04-13 00:54:05

Fraud is fraud

badsock | karma 1745 | avg karma 4.23 · | 2016-10-14 02:55:43+00:00

You use the word fraudulent too lightly.

betwixthewires | karma 4417 | avg karma 2.03 · | 2022-09-03 21:30:41

Fraud isn't fraud unless someone's resources are stolen, conspiracy isnt conspiracy unless some unlawful act is imminent or has occurred. In both cases, its not the words that are illegal, it is tangible, observable real world actions that are.

eropple | karma 27047 | avg karma 2.87 · | 2019-05-20 16:24:00

"Fraudulent" is a word that means things. Can you please substantiate your claim beyond just the assertion?

roxgib | karma 373 | avg karma 2.49 · | 2022-11-25 06:34:12

When someone is saying 'fraud', I think most people are talking specifically about a criminal offence of some kind.

TylerE | karma 18504 | avg karma 2.4 · | 2022-12-05 09:12:43

The word you're looking for is fraud.

escapedmoose | karma 869 | avg karma 2.68 · | 2023-11-03 12:43:58

This attitude seems to follow a very loose definition of the term “fraud” and is likely not what people in this thread mean when they employ the term.

em3rgent0rdr | karma 5777 | avg karma 2.68 · | 2017-01-05 10:38:09

Fraud is a poor word choice, because it is a legal term. There must be a better word out there.

mercer | karma 6152 | avg karma 1.42 · | 2017-05-25 05:55:24+00:00

Isn't it pretty much the definition of fraud?

Cougher | karma 382 | avg karma 1.38 · | 2019-12-14 09:34:22

True, but there isn't a difference between fraud and fraud.