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EMIRELADERO · 2022-04-29 15:42:47

My point is that the contract could be unconscionable

dboreham | karma 16160 | avg karma 2.32 · | 2019-06-08 21:16:08+00:00

Such contract terms might be ruled unconscionable.

adrienne | karma 39 | avg karma 0.18 · | 2016-12-13 15:02:39

That contractual requirement is unconscionable in and of itself, of course! But that's a different problem.

Sharlin | karma 15457 | avg karma 3.55 · | 2015-08-06 03:22:58

The point is that some contracts are unenforceable. It is impossible to give up some rights in a legally binding way.

ryandrake | karma 48548 | avg karma 4.45 · | 2016-12-19 18:54:17+00:00

Contracts voluntarily signed and negotiated can still be unconscionable or contain unconscionable terms.

marcus0x62 | karma 1886 | avg karma 2.8 · | 2023-11-18 05:27:18

Or we could not allow unconscionable contract terms.

eweise | karma 1167 | avg karma 2.04 · | 2022-05-02 12:47:02

My point is I don't think it would be a valid contract but I think you could have inferred that.

hnbroseph | karma 195 | avg karma 0.64 · | 2019-02-14 17:59:05

there are a variety of reasons a contract can be unenforceable, including notions of being 'unconscionable' or 'unfair'.

mbostleman | karma 865 | avg karma 1.75 · | 2018-09-12 17:44:45+00:00

Again, I think you're implying that this contract is not enforceable. If that's the case, then my point is irrelevant. But that was not my reading of it.

Evbn | karma 3114 | avg karma 1.08 · | 2013-02-21 03:27:41+00:00

"Unconscionable" contracts are legally void, so to some extent, yes.

anigbrowl | karma 91010 | avg karma 3.36 · | 2016-12-19 18:27:08+00:00

Some contracts are unconscionable. That a contract exists tells you nothing about whether or not it is equitable.

pessimizer | karma 33733 | avg karma 2.47 · | 2011-11-30 17:18:16

The contract wouldn't be enforceable.

YokoZar | karma 2693 | avg karma 3.44 · | 2013-02-21 17:59:41

But if something isn't expressible in plain language, how could anyone claim to have a valid contract about it? that sounds like the very definition of "unconscionable".

bdhess | karma 688 | avg karma 3.03 · | 2016-07-21 17:20:47

Not necessarily, if the contract can later be found to be unconscionable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscionability

anigbrowl | karma 91010 | avg karma 3.36 · | 2019-02-28 22:28:30

Unconscionable contracts are void.

skygazer | karma 991 | avg karma 2.87 · | 2020-09-18 11:00:19

It sounds like you’re implying it should be safe to sign any contract you don’t intend to honor, so far as it’s your opinion it’s a ridiculous contract. I’m not certain that’s true in practice.

burgerbrain | karma 9016 | avg karma 3.09 · | 2011-09-20 15:25:39+00:00

Considering that many people were "born into" that 'licensing agreement', and considering the penalties for leaving that 'agreement', I would say the contract is practically the definition of unconscionable.

CamTin | karma 1115 | avg karma 2.77 · | 2019-02-12 17:55:28

Arguably you shouldn't be able to enter into such a contract, similar to how you can't contract yourself into slavery, even if you want to.

bdowling | karma 2513 | avg karma 2.46 · | 2019-05-07 04:55:05+00:00

That contract would probably be unenforceable due to being against public policy.