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By global, I mean Universal, all-encompassing. Advocating for one such system is like advocating for a global government.

There are better alternatives. Local, discrete, networked systems that can co-evolve with its participants. They reduce of total collapse of the system and reduce systemic risk.



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Not the OP, but I guess an argument against globalisation could be made (and has been made by many) from the perspective of better robustness/resilience of a less centralized/less interconnected system, avoidance of single points of failure, maintaining higher diversity of opinions, etc. etc.

That sounds better than making everything global.

Globally?

Globally?

We live in a global society.

Right. It may be good on a global or national scale, but hurts locally. Globalism in action

I understand the advantages to a global village but we rarely talk about the downsides. Perhaps the global village is a failed experiment and needs to be reconfigured into bubbles. Perhaps we need to move back to a protectism of sort.

A globalized economy needs globalized cooperation and governance. The current situation is not feasible.

Global.

You keep using that word, "global". I do not think it means what you think it means.

Wouldn't that be introducing a globalized single point of failure?

It seems like the meaning of the word "globalization" has been hijacked. It really seems, in the minds of some people at least, to indicate a bundle of very negative outcomes - which in no way I would support.

Shifting the center of this discussion would take too long. I'm not here to write a dissertation about the evolution of human society. I think I've hinted at how things could possibly unfold, if we make a consistent effort to better the future of the Earth. Read what I've said and that should provide some indication - unless your mind is set on "winning" a contest of punditry, in which case I wish you good luck.

TLDR: I think the best of all possible futures could be achieved through some measure of unity on a global scale, at a higher order of magnitude compared to what we have now. Inequality is one of the many obstacles on the way there. Narrow-minded nationalism is another. It would require massive changes on multiple levels, and it will not happen in a day or two. Call the end result whatever you like. But anything that could bring that future closer is a good cause to support.


On the contrary. Global is good, but it has to be globally distributed. Global cannot mean just make it in China.

Right now, since China is ahead of the curve, it is valuable to be globalized in many respects. But it is not enough.


I agree. I’ve seen more prominent figures argue against global state often. Using global state is certainly not idiomatic Go.

Yeah. I think as a straightforward, easily correct transition from 2000 globals, a giant structure isn't an awful idea. It's not like the globals were organized before! You're just making the ambient state (awful as it is) explicit.

Global citizenship requires global government which comes with its own set of problems. What if the majority favored a certain behavior, such as this one? Then it would be globally legal. Maybe it's not globally favored now--that doesn't mean it will always be this way.

Compartmentalization is better than globalization. Humans are fallible and often evil. That is not going to change. The best thing to do is compartmentalize people and government to prevent cancerous evil from affecting everyone.

Anything else is wishful thinking. History shows that evil's not going anywhere, and contemporary events do as well.


What exactly would you offer as an alternative to globalization? Purely curious.

> global

Unfortunately the global machine only works well if the parts are working together for the greater good in the first place, which is not a given.
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