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And they need to connect, efficiently.

It's just not possible for soft 70kg humans to safely be near hard 2000kg objects moving quickly.



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Yeah. I've always found it strange that to move an 80kg human from A to B, we also have to shift a couple of tonnes of metal. Seems really excessive!

I hear ya. But at 1.1m lifting an adult human might be a struggle.

I don't know. I suspect they are proportionately as well as absolutely better at carrying large loads at slow speeds than we are; momentum is in our favour as we're on two legs.

But I do know there's a guy currently training to run the London Marathon with a refrigerator (OK a British one, but a refrigerator) on his back.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy7wq4y9w5jo

We have a really distorted view of what humans are capable of!


Your opposing human actor is not 2000kg and moving at 4+ m/s...

A maximum lifting capacity of 40 lbs is far from human-level performance.

I don't disagree with your point, but my point is that we need to imagine what it must be for the guys carrying the heaviest of the loads!

Or carrying them up a flight of stairs on your back. I think peak power is more important than work here. The peak power to throw someone 3 metres into the air is ludicrous, but arresting a fall over a (slightly) longer time period, with bones and ligaments taking the peak power instead of muscles are what is going on.

Unless it's their weight.

> They're mad that the object is heavy

When you get above a few kilograms there's also a biomechanical issue - the same reason the world record for clean and jerk is much higher than the world record for bicep curls, despite moving the weight a lot further.

Lifting something from waist height to chin height quickly, using big leg muscles to give it momentum, is easier than lifting it slowly using only arm muscles.

And nobody lifting 10kg trash bags for 8 hours a day is doing it the difficult way :)


> Still, 35lb or so of pulling effort to activate the handle. It's like trying to drag a 4yo kid with both hands, except the handle is much thinner.

The negative g's are doing the pulling in this case though, all the passenger had to do is hang on. At -0.5 g a 160lb person will be "pulling" with 80lbs of force just by grabbing onto something.


Or just have really heavy "feet". That's what the big block of steel/concrete on the back of a forklift is for.

That's a very different workload than pulling a heavy weight for long distances though.

I think this is an amazing and inevitable outcome. However, sort of disappointed by the 60 kilo max. I feel like these suits need to be an ordwr of magnitude better than humans to be viable. There are certainly people who can lift 125lb objects. I understand that fatigue and uniformity factor in, but it will be great to see 300lb+ suits

> FWIW there are people who weigh well beyond 150kg so I'd argue it would be plausible.

Those people have been training for months/years to carry that weight.


Moving a total of 2600kg with only 150kg of "useful load" (2 people) is a waste of energy.

Alot of loads they carry can become completely impossible for human physiology to carry by having to extend any weight too far from your body. Or pieces of material that weigh above 150kg. No safety intstruction can prevent guys from hoisting that up on their own if it needs to be done in order to continue working. That in addition to lots of chemicals, sprays, fiberglass and dust in the air makes it a health nightmare.

I'm surprised that these loads are carried on the body. Surely with 50+ Kg soldiers cannot climb walls or jump over trenches, so why not use something like a Chinese wheelbarrow, which would work even on narrow, bumpy paths? They could provide some cover as well.

Design loading for human occupancies come in in the range of 100psf, which is something like 500kg/m2. That's roughly one 200lb adult per 2sf.

You can pack a _lot_ of humans into a small space.

Cars are about half that, because they don't pack well.

Of course, libraries are even worse, sometimes you're looking at 300+ psf design loads there.


Incorrectly, though. 300 cm is a long way for a human to shift his weight.
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