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beepbeepcabbage · 2022-07-17 23:22:53

Americans aren't going to increase immigration, it's just not going to happen.

mason240 | karma 2247 | avg karma 2.29 · | 2015-10-21 14:39:40

Almost no one in the US is calling for restrictions on immigration.

vacuity | karma 444 | avg karma 0.84 · | 2023-09-09 11:11:21

I'm clearly not against immigrants because I don't like immigration. It's also not grounded in reality for you to say that Americans can support arbitrary numbers of immigrants because the economy will magically make things work out.

amanaplanacanal | karma 4641 | avg karma 1.5 · | 2021-03-04 16:08:22+00:00

The US is still growing its population, via immigration rather than births.

c_lebesgue | karma 68 | avg karma 3.78 · | 2015-05-07 16:20:22+00:00

There's not that many countries with immigration problems like the US. The majority of governments don't care much.

Zetice | karma 1648 | avg karma 1.39 · | 2023-09-09 11:06:38

It is not "reality" to claim that Americans would lose out if more immigrants came to the US.

zaptheimpaler | karma 6654 | avg karma 4.55 · | 2020-06-19 01:09:14+00:00

I'm not saying they will. I'm only saying the US has become far less attractive to immigrants over recent years. It might not even have any impact on the US, who knows.

philipov | karma 5318 | avg karma 3.01 · | 2022-10-04 11:13:48

If it's a global trend, immigration isn't going to fix that. At least, not in the long-term.

throw_pm23 | karma 994 | avg karma 2.54 · | 2023-06-12 08:42:31

Keeping immigrants down usually does not benefit the majority population -- at least on the long term.

FerociousTimes | karma 339 | avg karma 1.46 · | 2022-04-09 10:11:15

I am not sure why you keep repeating the talking point that Americans don't want legal and skilled immigration anymore without any evidence to back up your claim because as Gallup poll [1] suggests that dissatisfaction with immigration levels (legal or illegal) was on a downward trend and hit an all-time low last year.

[1]: https://news.gallup.com/poll/389708/dissatisfaction-immigrat...

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sangnoir | karma 15035 | avg karma 2.79 · | 2019-10-04 06:42:53

Immigration into the US from central & south America has been steadily going down for years now. The demographic change is mostly due to differences in birthrates, not even whittling down immigration to 0 will change this.

tasogare | karma 1277 | avg karma 0.96 · | 2021-11-13 05:26:35

> America has never been a champion of immigration

97.91% of US citizens have immigrant ancestors, if that's not championing immigration nothing is.

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standardUser | karma 11242 | avg karma 3.56 · | 2020-07-29 15:28:38+00:00

This is nothing that increased immigration can't solve. Immigration has insulated the US from the age curve that has afflicted most Western nations for generations.

dudul | karma 2812 | avg karma 0.95 · | 2021-04-07 22:53:36

And that's why nobody in the world wants to immigrate to the US.

mytailorisrich | karma 6395 | avg karma 1.01 · | 2024-01-16 15:04:19

It's like in the UK. They say that immigration is a problem because people are unhappy about it but they do nothing about it and, in fact, push for more.

revel | karma 1041 | avg karma 6.43 · | 2022-04-09 11:47:14

There is no political will to fight for immigrants; skilled or otherwise. Without votes or the organized capital needed to lobby congress the immigration situation is only likely to get worse. The right wing's view of immigration has morphed over the past decade from "only skilled" to "no immigration at all" and the left has capitulated completely. This shift in attitudes towards immigration isn't unique to America but it's infuriating and depressing to see. Immigration is America's policy crown jewel. It's madness to see Europe's stagnation and think "yes, that's what I want for this country"

evgen | karma 8296 | avg karma 2.93 · | 2015-05-21 18:49:17+00:00

Actually, today's report has not immigration up to within 2000 of the highest ever recorded. I guess those who vote with their feet disagrees with your assessment.

rbecker | karma 468 | avg karma 0.73 · | 2020-06-29 05:04:30

Whatever you do, don't think of immigration in anything but economic terms.

bruceb | karma 3632 | avg karma 2.61 · | 2020-12-24 04:59:15

There have always been limits to immigration. Almost no one is saying no immigration. Needs change. What the country needs now might not be the same as 150 years ago.

robomartin | karma 8629 | avg karma 2.1 · | 2013-06-12 16:41:58+00:00

The claim is that Americans don't want anyone to come here. That is utterly false and it is fully supported by this data. Your point might have been valid if the topic at hand were different.