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Many people have lung cancer even if they don't smoke, and many also died old without lung cancer despite smoking all day.


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Non smokers get lung cancer too.

Smoking a pack a day for 30 years is not really the same thing as making a momentary error in judgement.

Yes, non-smokers can get lung cancer, too. But at a far lower frequency.


If smoking just caused lung cancer that would be one thing. Most smokers never get lung cancer, they develop and die from cardiovascular disease and chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder.

Both my parents are lifelong smokers from their early teens and were a year or two apart in age.

My mom died of lung cancer at 54.

My dad is still going strong at 77 and smokes Camel unfiltered.

Humans are weird.

Regardless, you don't want to die from lung cancer. It is pretty horrible. Your body attacks itself, fluid collects in the lungs, it is painful, and you basically drown from within. Your only option is high doses of morphine and one day you just don't wake up. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.


Cancer is not "totally preventable". Non-smokers die of lung cancer (and other cancers) too.

That's probably a bit too simplified; if you're a smoker and get lung cancer at 65 then it's very conceivable you would have lived longer if you never smoked (not certain: lots of things can cause lung cancer). It's even more clear-cut with things like asbestos.

As for ol' Dicky specifically, he seems to be doing pretty well for his age: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL3AijekRYw


I know a few people who smoke and haven't got lung cancer. Does that disprove the mountain of scientific evidence for the causal link between the two?

Or does it prove that outliers exist?

> Our bodies are just vessels that our souls drive around for a while. They wear out eventually no matter what.

He was 54 when he died. That's no age by anyone's standards.

Look after your health.


Your argument isn't quite as good as this one that I heard all the time as a kid:

"People who don't smoke die of lung cancer too."

Your argument probably falls more in line with the Jim Fixx excuse:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fixx

I could write a long explanation on why you're wrong but I think it's better for you to figure it out for yourself.


people don’t get lung cancer because of nicotine.

Smoking and lung cancer isn't necessarily a bad thing, depending on individual's approach to life. Live fast, die young, baby!

There is a huge and very strong correlation between less smoking and lower lung cancer rates. You claimed otherwise, that's what I was referring to. Of course some people still get it without smoking.

the vast majority (90%) of lifelong smokers never develop lung cancer.

"Not all smokers have lung cancer. Therefore, smoking does not cause lung cancer."

Yes, and?

The majority of smokers don't get lung cancer either. Just because it thankfully didn't happen to you, doesn't mean it isn't something that happens to people regularly.


My understanding, though not by any means an expert, is that lung cancer that non smokers tend to get is different to that which smokers tend to get.

This is interesting, but dangerous. Smokers make up 90% of lung cancer deaths [1]. At some point you have to acknowledge that smoking definitely does something to influence lung cancer.

[1] http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/about-smoking/health-effect...


It's not the smoking that gets you, it's the lung cancer and emphysema.

lung cancer and cigarette

20% of lung cancer cases in the US are people who have never smoked.
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