> I wish there was an auto filter to remove everything with a TikTok logo because if it has that it's certain I'm going to hate it :)
I'd love for that to be an option. I've tried looking at Youtube Shorts and it's pretty much 500 TikTok videos being uploaded by dozens of channels and dumped on everyone. Making it possible to filter by "the TikTok voice", "the TikTok laugh" and the top 5 songs used for TikTok would improve the experience by a lot and I might actually see something I care about. Downvoting doesn't change anything either, they'll even start looping around and showing me Shorts I've downvoted before. Or maybe it's really not used by anyone and automated TikTok uploads are all there is, I don't know.
> What I love about tiktok is how they've managed to ban all political content.
This is... not my experience with TikTok at all. I think what you've just described is your own little filter bubble that Tiktok presents.
My Tiktok is very gay. Not that that is political, but I get a lot of trans rights content, queer issues/advocacy, BLM content, pro-choice content, "landlords are evil" content etc etc and usually its funny and witty and I love it.
> What are you trying to say? That the reason this person see this content is their fault?
You can control the feed by tapping on a clip you don't like and selecting 'Not interested'. Less successfully by immediately swiping to the next clip. In this way I have got rid of live streams, cats and girls doing dance or PoV trends.
But if you do in fact have a quick peak at the live streams, cats and girls doing dance or PoV trends, TikTok will keep showing them.
> What kind of lunatic watches someone's uploads out of chronological order?
Welcome to the TikTok algorithmic feed. Viewing videos in order and with context is so passe.
That said, I rarely do this as well. If I've found somebody's content I like, I'll tend to then go see what playlists they've made for similar topics. Some channels will have over 500 videos dating back a decade at this point - I'm not going to watch that in order, but I'll at least browse by playlist.
You've managed to find the word I've been looking for to describe why I don't like TikTok. It feels taxing. It makes my head spin and after a couple minutes I feel exhausted. Maybe my brain's just too slow and sensitive.
> TikTok takes the content you have seen and implicitly shown that you like, and shows you diverse content that has some of the features you seemed to enjoy, while it learns from that.
In my case the recommendations had nothing to do with what I had liked or shown interest in. It was equivalent to visiting Reddit’s /r/popular, which might appeal to most people, but from an algorithmic perspective then there’s nothing impressive about it. Like I also mentioned in another comment, I think there’s nothing wrong with this approach, I just don’t understand how people can be impressed by it from a technical point of view.
> If you are looking to fetishise young Asian women, then maybe you are on the wrong type of website (and: maybe you shouldn't do this).
I was just trying to conduct the most simple experiment imaginable to see whether it was actually capable of detecting what I showed interest in and do so in a way that I could easily verify the results. What I was looking for in the experiment represent perhaps 20% of the userbase, yet it was still incapable of displaying a single post that matched what I was trying to achieve (because the feed just show what they believe is interesting in your area). I could also have tried to achieve something more complex, like train TikTok to show skateboarding videos (which might represent less than 0.001% of their videos), but I figured I’d try with the easiest thing imaginable first (which it failed at).
And I fail to see why there’s anything wrong with being interested in watching content of people within a certain age group, or gender, or nationality..
If I were a TikTok user then I’d surely hope that they were able to recommend my videos to people that were interested in the kind of content I posted (because that would open up a lot of possibilities, like meeting people with similar interests, selling products, etc.)
>TikTok doesn't autoplay anything -- it repeats the video you watched. Do you mean you scrolled down?
I click a link in WhatsApp, it opens up Safari in iOS on my phone, it plays the video, then at the end it starts playing another video.
I'm using a content blocker, so I presume TikTok does not know anything about my personal characteristics, so I assumed the videos that autoplay are the ones they autoplay by default.
PS I will forever harbor resentment to people around the world for putting up with video players that lack the ability to skip around the video or even see the length of the video.
> for example, start searching the #lgbt or similar tags and watching/liking/commenting.
What if some hate video for the community gets posted under the same/similar tag? I am not sure how it is now but mid last year one friend saw something very offensive on a tag related to his nationality with a lot of likes.
> Maybe because I compulsively watch videos until the end even if I don't like them.
That would definitely do it, basically destroying their most important signal.
TikTok is best in class for recommendeding content and I personally haven't see a dip in quality. Aka I never get trashy videos or anything cringe, just a consistent stream of science/tech, local Toronto restaurant reviews, cat videos, etc
> Has anyone in this thread actually spent time watching Tim Tok videos and using the app?
I just looked at what's trending [1]. It's like Facebook on steroids, teenagers posting 10 second videos of me me me. The only thing you learn watching TikTok videos is how to get people's attention with 10 second videos.
> I entered a TikTok like mode where I could keep skipping from a short crappy video to another in an infinite doomscroll of shit
Sounds like you clicked on a "YouTube Short", which will start a TikTok-like view with short videos. These are different than normal videos and as you correctly point out, it is done to emulate TikTok.
> The other important reason is that the "Not interested" action is seamless and TikTok actually learns from it.
Have you ever used it? Because is doing a "decent" job but not a "great" job. I've been suggested videos that I constantly flag as "not interested" all the time (and since it has no "block" functionality you gotta suck it up if it comes back again)
The algorithm is great but is more about where are you located than anything else. You don't get to see a lot of the content created in the first place just because you're not in the right region (eg. I never saw a Charlie video for example)
Overall I think it might apply a weighted approach on what to show and based on your engagement double down on what you are likely to watch more. Then you've trends, top creators etc that get featured more often.
The only thing I love about TikTok is the non-existing advertising. There's some, but is rather seamless and non blocking that sometimes you are even going to watch it.
Nothing to do with YouTube where you're basically in a worst situation than the classic TV (ads every now and then)
> I thought it was disturbing how often it would show me videos from people who'd turn out to be under-age girls
This is disturbing to say the least, especially because TikTok's algorithm is highly responsive to your individual preferences. I tried it out for a bit because my kid was on it, and I literally only got forklift, train and truck videos after awhile.
> realistically TikTok is just very good at giving you content you're interested in.
And nothing else? Show me the data.
The problem is that it feels like they just show users what they want, that there are no thumbs on the scale, but then they hide the scale! There is no transparency.
I'd love for that to be an option. I've tried looking at Youtube Shorts and it's pretty much 500 TikTok videos being uploaded by dozens of channels and dumped on everyone. Making it possible to filter by "the TikTok voice", "the TikTok laugh" and the top 5 songs used for TikTok would improve the experience by a lot and I might actually see something I care about. Downvoting doesn't change anything either, they'll even start looping around and showing me Shorts I've downvoted before. Or maybe it's really not used by anyone and automated TikTok uploads are all there is, I don't know.
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