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> asking for a disclosure

Bullshit, before you even finish the sentence. You didn't ask, you accused. Did you read the context of the tweets you linked?



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> He’s not claiming that he actually didn’t know everything

Yes; he is.

> he’s claiming that Twitter lied in public filings not related to the deal.

He explicitly claims that they are deeply related to the deal.


> responsibly disclosed it,

That's the problem here. The disclosure as represented by the author themself is decidedly not responsible.


>The fact you think my inability to talk about some secret work I have done means that I've done something unethical is ridiculous.

The evidence we've seen so far says no, it's not ridiculous. Prove otherwise any time :)


> I don't think we could agree to the NDA even if we wanted to because I already tweeted about the incident before being offered compensation

NDAs usually exclude from the definition of confidential information anything disclosed before the fact. They also don’t typically restrict you from letting regulators, et cetera know things.

Unless you were planning on writing a book about the experience, the NDA probably wasn’t restricting you. Unless you were planning on going to court, the arbitration clause probably made your ability to seek redress cheaper.

Note: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.


> The fact that 'contact Onity, then disclose publicly after a reasonable period of time' is nowhere on his list just blows my mind.

That's the very first thing on the list. Quote: "The standard 'Responsible Disclosure' approach would be to notify Onity and give them X months to deal with the issue before taking it public."


>> You've likely already broken your NDA by admitting you signed one or that one exists

In my opinion and I'm not a laywer, you aren't violating an NDA by stating an NDA exists unless the NDA explicitly states to not state that it exists. He did not disclose anything about the NDA or parties signed to it or any content that the NDA covers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement


> called someone who was convinced his company was worth more a liar for saying he knew it.

No, that wasn’t the lie. From the horses mouth:

“It comes down to this: my intent was to deceive. I was intentionally pretending we had another offer, and he detected it.”

https://twitter.com/apartovi/status/1447324896904638467


> Sorry, I hate to ask but I just have to know now. Have you ever worked in a large tech organization?

Sorry, but you're not going to.

> They may not even be explicitly lying, because the statement is so ambiguous. When you're reading PR/legal speak then every single word matters.

Then say it's ambiguous, instead of saying the opposite is true, is all I'm saying. You misinform people that way.


> Do you really think they will make a publish statement about this?

No, but that's why I'm skeptical about your claim; I don't think they'd tell you that either.

If they did, I'd encourage you to whistleblow.


> what is far more likely is that he has uncovered some deep Twitter bullshit

Unfortunately, the time to do that was BEFORE he signed the contract. He didn't have to sign the contract without due diligence.

> Or maybe he has a lot more info than any of us internet loons at the moment?

Let me know how that turns out. Maybe the horse will sing. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/sig.html


> Maia didn't share the data at all

You literally immediately falsified that assertion:

> and only offers to if someone can demonstrate they will use it responsibly.

And nobody ever lies of course.


> And for your allegations, can you provide any proof for it?

Actually, yes. The reason this is news is because it was recently unredacted from internal Google documents submited to the court:

https://twitter.com/jason_kint/status/1451579045246820355?s=...


> I don’t even know what they said is true.

We can reasonably assume that the postmortem is truthful. Since they’re a publicly traded company, lying about this incident would be a quick way to turn an embarrassment into a felony.


> So he actually leaked information.

Well, that's what a whistleblower does, isn't it?

How would a whistleblower reveal that a company is doing questionable things without leaking information?


> once that party has been shown to act maliciously, extra scrutiny is warranted

It's nonsense that they acted maliciously. The original research was handled terribly, but it was not malicious. They intended to help, not hurt, even if they did so very poorly.

Further, that is one advisor, whose name is not being dragged. Aditya's name, however, is, thanks to Greg's slanderous comments.

https://twitter.com/trishalynn/status/1385410960278491137 "I am disgusted by the actions of Aditya Pakki"

https://twitter.com/hedleyroos/status/1386290204298735617 "Aditya Pakki is going to have a hard time finding employment." (this one directly retweeted Greg's post)

https://twitter.com/_mackal/status/1384910754151866370 "The simple fact that Aditya Pakki is so butt hurt proves this wasn't in good faith and their only reason for doing it is to shit out another hit piece. That email you quoted is fucking insane."

https://twitter.com/BeardyNotes/status/1384900450059788288 "Sleazeballs like Aditya Pakki should be fired and disbarred from doing any "research" anywhere in the world!"

https://twitter.com/seakoz/status/1384895697414148096 "Aditya Pakki will forever be googleable as the guy who deliberately tried to make Linux insecure."

Does that seem right to you? Are these the "consequences" you think are justified, because Aditya was trying to add legitimate patches for a tool he was working on to contribute to the kernel?

Greg should publicly apologize to Aditya.


> They’re still a company a PR and Legal team

All the more reason to not give them the benefit of the doubt with shit like this. If they say something flat out, that has some weight since there could be legal repercussions for lying (in theory anyway.) But not saying anything and letting people infer whatever they want? That's how companies with PR and Legal teams like to cover their asses instead of outright lying. The company says nothing and lets their supporters invent whatever headcanon is most flattering. I don't go in for that.


> read about responsible disclosure

Stop presuming I haven't.

> Esser put people at risk.

That's non-provable until we see it instantiated.

> If you're fine with that, cool, but don't pretend he didn't do anything.

Don't speak for me. I never said he did the right thing. I said stop spinning what-ifs about it, but clearly what I should have said is STFU and do something about it. People getting in each other's grill isn't doing something about it. It's blaming others for whatever issues we, as a group, find polarizing.


> he mentioned it privately and doesn't seem to want to air dirty laundry more than he has too.

Unfortunately, it seems we're getting the worst of both worlds: The dirty laundry is being aired in this thread, but the actual details are being withheld.

From the Tweet thread:

> they've also taken steps to marginalize the core team. and some other dirty shit I won't say rn.

I'm not a fan of these "just trust me" accusations.


>This isn't about delaying details to anybody

Yes it is. If you disclose early to a select group, you are by definition delaying details to everyone else.

The paid early disclosure stuff used to exist all over the place, and it was a joke in terms of it being immediately leaked to those in the know.

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