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I read somewhere that literally all humor stems from "incompatible frames of reference" and I thought that was interesting.


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Reading all the comments here, my reaction is 'Whoosh!". Perhaps it is possible to use Cantor diagonalization to demonstrate there are forms of humour that are not accessible to everyone?

I'm in the learning phase so I can't really comment on this but would love to hear others' comments.<p>(cross-post from http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/pj7le/i_gained_a_new_perspective/)

... a fact which can lead to hilarious misunderstandings

That is how most attempts at humour come about...

Actually, not quite so. There's structure, otherwise it would be incomprehensible and people would not resonate so much with it.

William James said that philosophy “sees the familiar as if it were strange, and the strange as if it were familiar.” The same is true of standup comedy. Simon Critchley has written that both ask us to “look at things as if you had just landed from another planet”. [1]

[1] https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/humor/


The other key point here is that it's a lot funnier if you choose one particular interpretation.

It's a very nuanced form of humor.

>Not really. Most of the time is just the mental analogue of fart jokes.

I didn't say all insights were equal. If this was just a fart joke, I wouldn't have thought it was funny. But you can't draw a line between insight and humor, can you?

>No, that's just a cliche.

It's a cliche because it's Shakespeare. That doesn't make it less true.


The stylistic device in question is known commonly as a "joke".

Sure it does, such a joke is often called absurdist or surrealist humor. Quite popular on Twitter.

Anyway, I think that is a lot more likely than some obscure cultural reference that we’re expected to parse in the middle of musing about digital mapping.


Also Marvin Minsky's hilarious paper: Jokes and their Relation to the Cognitive Unconscious. More fun than a barrel of an infinite number of monkeys.

https://web.media.mit.edu/~minsky/papers/jokes.cognitive.txt

Abstract: Freud's theory of jokes explains how they overcome the mental "censors" that make it hard for us to think "forbidden" thoughts. But his theory did not work so well for humorous nonsense as for other comical subjects. In this essay I argue that the different forms of humor can be seen as much more similar, once we recognize the importance of knowledge about knowledge and, particularly, aspects of thinking concerned with recognizing and suppressing bugs -- ineffective or destructive thought processes. When seen in this light, much humor that at first seems pointless, or mysterious, becomes more understandable.

A gentleman entered a pastry-cook's shop and ordered a cake; but he soon brought it back and asked for a glass of liqueur instead. He drank it and began to leave without having paid. The proprietor detained him. "You've not paid for the liqueur." "But I gave you the cake in exchange for it." "You didn't pay for that either." "But I hadn't eaten it". --- from Freud (1905).

"Yields truth when appended to its own quotation" yields truth when appended to its own quotation. --W. V. Quine

A man at the dinner table dipped his hands in the mayonnaise and then ran them through his hair. When his neighbor looked astonished, the man apologized: "I'm so sorry. I thought it was spinach."

[Note 11] Spinach. A reader mentioned that she heard this joke about brocolli, not mayonnaise. This is funnier, because it transfers a plausible mistake into an implausible context. In Freud's version the mistake is already too silly: one could mistake spinach for broccoli, but not for mayonnaise. I suspect that Freud transposed the wrong absurdity when he determined to tell it himself later on. Indeed, he (p.139) seems particularly annoyed at this joke -- and well he might be if, indeed, he himself damaged it by spoiling the elegance of the frame-shift. I would not mention this were it not for the established tradition of advancing psychiatry by analyzing Freud's own writings.


Please post a few examples. I'm really thirsty to see some humour on here, and get a sense of it.

To paraphrase Freud, "Sometimes a humorous article is just a humorous article."

Does anybody know of a book containing a good analysis of humor? I'm wondering if there is some structure to be found in the things we find funny.

I have a sense of humor; the above was meh

P.S. and that attempt at humor definitely involved metaphor


Exactly. Humor requires context, and context doesn't scale easily.

> Life imitating art and vice versa.

Am I the only one that finds it tremendously amusing when life imitates comedy?


Unnecessary specificity is humorous.

> Humor on the internet has a weird way of spreading and just destroying any conversation.

Agree, and it is interesting because offline, humor has a way of aiding conversations.

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