Something that's always confused me about the world and people as a whole. Why are so many people hell bent on implementing some "moral standard" that everyone needs to follow? Honestly?
There's this bizarre projection of the individual and his/her motivations onto every living being that fails to make any logical sense.
Is there any psychological premise for why we feel the need to dictate the behavior of others such that they perfectly mirror how we behave (or in many cases, wish to)?
There appears to be a tipping point where someone agrees with a certain set of values and as opposed to stopping at enforcing those values on themselves (reasonable), they go absolutely nuts trying to push it onto everyone else.
I only speak for myself and would feel uncomfortable enforcing my values on others. That's why my comment posed this more as an open question and discussion.
It's understandable that people enjoy sharing their passions and what works for them with the world, but pushing everyone else to do the same is wrong.
Different people want different things in life. And that's what makes the world such an interesting place.
Because, and you may not know this, some people have standards they live by. They like "nice things". And there's large groups of them that feel this way and want to ensure they don't attract an antisocial person that has different values.
I feel like people have this really funny idea that everyone should accept them and respect them for exactly who they are and that people should respect whatever it is they want to do. This isn't true at all. Your mom and dad may, but no one else does even if we say we do.
We specifically construct social systems like private clubs, HOAs, etc to keep people out because we don't want to associate with people like them. A great thing about liberty is it allows us to freely associate which means groups of people can construct social gates which keep other people out that can't or won't meet a standard.
This is such a crappy suggestion: That we are all just acting in our own self-interest. I'm privileged enough that this is not the case, and I despise the implication. It's like voting for Trump just because of the huge tax cut I will get. Not everyone thinks this way.
"I will do X because my kind of people do X" is substituting stereotypes for reasoning. The very existence of standard expectations about how individual human beings conduct their lives is toxic, and I heartily approve of any resistance. Society can't possibly compensate you for sacrificing what you want in favor of what the majority is doing (whether or not they actually wanted to).
It should be stated. Not everyone shares in the same values as everyone else. There are also those who are unable to understand the social norms of others.
Plus unwritten rules can be subverted and misused at least as much as written ones.
And it's always about how others should live. I'm perfectly ok with people deciding for themselves that they want to live by scripture x, y or z but then they invariably want others to live by their scripture as well.
It's really just a reflection of our society - and in this case, rather than being the ones lecturing others on our moral values, we're having someone else's moral values forced on us.
I am compelled to agree with this. In my opinion, many people take the easy route of claiming to support this or that ideal yet do not take the necessary time and introspection to ensure that the reality of their actions backs up that claim. This would seem to explain the often huge gap between what society claims they tolerate and support compared to the pressures and expectations people experience day-to-day.
Seriously get over it. You are the one that has the problem here. The wish to become a better individual and not what everyone else thinks you should be is not a crime. Your response doesn't belong on this site. Grow up.
Because you're treatment people differently based on something outside of their control. Just because you can justify why you'd want to act that way, in no way makes it any less wrong.
You said this stuff “pushes me away from it.” It should push you away from the troublesome people, and nothing more.
When you say most people leave this stuff at home, that seems to imply that the status quo is neutral. It isn’t. Continuing to treat people the way you always have is just as much of a statement as saying you should treat people differently. It’s just easier to find agreement.
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