They were told by the goverment "If you don't do it on your own, we will make you do it", so the big ISPs did (BT, Virgin, Sky, TalkTalk). This was back in 2012.
> But ministers have always been clear that if industry did not go far enough or fast enough, the government would consider further action - including potentially regulation.
The filter is turned on by default from the biggest ISPs however each one of them asks if you would like to disable it during the onboarding process.
Same goes for mobile internet, the only diffence there is if you are using PAYG you have to validate your age via a credit card or using a form of ID at your providers local store.
> From the media coverage of the "UK porn filter" that I followed, the government said they would make a law to require filtering, then the ISPs jumped on it and implemented their filtering systems, and then the proposed laws failed / stalled.
That's not quite how it went. The government hinted that it might do so unless the ISPs implemented filters that people had to ask to opt-out of.
The ISPs jumped on adding a filtering choice for users in the form of a checkbox when they sign on. Something many of them had before. Some providers - notably the mobile providers - have defaulted to opt-out (since long before the government interference, on the basis that e.g. pay as you go sims can easily be obtained without providing id, and as a result they don't know if their subscribers are over 18), while most regular ISPs default to opt-in.
The government subsequently then did not propose any law, and issued triumphant press releases about protecting children, after Camerons advisers had been pleading with ISPs to at least make the checkboxes default to ticked. Largely the result was that they got mocked for not actually achieving any changes that made a difference to anything at all.
All the largest ISPs still filters child porn regardless of subscriber choice, but that's the only thing you're not able to turn off. Even that filtering is not covering nearly all ISPs.
Not quite. Most of the big ISPs were required to add an 'adult content' filter, which yes, basically blocks porn among other things.
When signing up for a new broadband connection, the box enabling this 'adult content' filter is ticked by default, meaning you have to actively untick it.
ISPs are also required to contact all existing customers somehow and ask them whether or not they want the filter enabled.
No laws have been passed yet to enforce ISPs to do this, just pressure from David Cameron and campaigns by the Daily Mail and 'parent' groups and stuff, although David Cameron did say if the recently implemented system was not effective enough they would have to legislate (the problem now, is whether the 4-8% takeup on all but one isp is 'effective'.)
Everything I'm reading at the moment suggest that this is not the case in the UK. Apparently as of about now, ISPs are turning on filtering by default without asking, and you must explicitly contact them to get it turned off. People I know who use O2 are, without being asked or contacted, finding that sites are getting blocked.
Some ISPs are, apparently, asking for explicit confirmation with a phrase such as "So you are requesting access to sites that carry pornographical material", and if you want to access anything that the Government has decided to block, you must reply "Yes."
I have no doubt that lists of people who have opted-out will, at some point, be leaked.
> the weird thing is if you want to turn off this child safe internet in the UK, you get a letter and they sent you this letter that tells you, look, you opted out of the filtering. Apparently you want to look at adult material.
I've opted out of these filters ever since they have been in place, Most providers will ask you during sign up if you wanted them on or off, I've always turned them off on day one. Since these filters have been in place I have been with (Who have the filters) Virgin Media, TalkTalk, Sky, 3 (Mobile internet) and I have never once recieved a letter from my ISP that tells me that I have opted out of the adult content filtering.
This is by law in the UK. A 2014 amendment to the 2003 Communications Act forces ISPs to do this. Blame the government, not the ISPs.
edit because HN won't let me post a rebuttal to the reply below:
Private corporations can be compelled and coerced by the government in other ways that aren't readily publicized. If you think these companies enjoy wasting resources on porn filter then you're crazy. Wikipedia:
"Prime Minister David Cameron made it clear in July 2013 that his aim was to ensure that by the end of 2013 all ISPs would have a filtering system in place.[13] As a result three of the four major ISPs (TalkTalk, Sky and BT[14]) began applying default filtering to new customers in 2013[15] with the fourth major ISP, Virgin, doing so in February 2014.[16] Default filtering of existing customers was implemented by all four major ISPs during 2014 with the aim of ensuring that the system applied to 95% of all households by the end of the year.[17][18]"
This timing isn't a big coincidence. Elect a better PM (or indirectly elect considering this is the UK) if you don't want such shenanigans.
Unable to hunt up a link right now, but literally every single ISP in the UK currently offers an opt-in filter for 'adult material'. Maybe the legislation should've just been to force more effective marketing of this.
It shouldn't be the role of the ISP, but in the UK content blocking is legally mandated. E.g., "The Digital Economy Act 2017 placed the requirement for ISP filtering into law and introduced a requirement for ISPs to block pornographic sites with inadequate age verification." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kin...
It's on top of the existing measure where if you wanted to access mature content over your internet connection, you had to file a request with your ISP. And I'm sure the UK's big provider porn filter wasn't very good anyway, given how much and how quickly it can pop up.
And the targeted demographic that should be protected - children - will find plenty of ways around it. Reddit and Twitter are easily accessed, Youtube has tons of soft porn that won't get filtered out, VPNs are everywhere - even free ones, like in Opera, and they Know about it - Tiktok has tons of soft porn, the list goes on.
Asking or even forcing the ISP's to give a parental options to block porn would have been sufficient in that case.
Given they have gone a LONG way past that with a proposal of a default ISP block and opt-in requirement, we can safely be sure this has nothing to do with regulating children's access.
Inline with other new legislation, the real reason this legislation is being proposed is that it forces ISP's to pay to upgrade their infrastructure for real-time surveillance. In other words, it is the infrastructure angle that the government wants private companies to pay for. After all, how effectively can you censor if you do not eventually do it in real time.
You can think of it as "the last mile" for the Intelligence Services, a part of the the "Going Dark" problem as technology and information rapidly expands along vectors that were not available to private entities in the past. By fair means or foul, the UK government will get what it needs - either directly from its first direct real-time proposal or via these types of censoring proposals to apply pressure on ISPs.
The "for the children" argument has nothing to do with anything since at most merely forcing the ISPs to give a parental options to block porn would have been sufficient against young children. No block of any kind (ISP or not) would ever work against older children, obviously, since many of them tend to be the most sophisticated technology and even socially-connected users in the household.
It's widely known that UK ISPs and mobile networks put filtering in place by default. They did this to avoid the government passing a law to make it mandatory.
This often blocks VPNs and sites that may or may not be used to access adult content.
There is always a way to remove the block, typically with credit card/ID verification of some sort.
Three might be blocking some things that other networks aren't, but I imagine you'll find the other networks block some things that Three doesn't.
There are many ISPs in England. One of these ISPs is called O2. A service that O2 offers is a whitelist only internet service designed for parents to enable if they wish to give their young children access to a mobile device without concern for the content that the child can access. This whitelist has existed for many many years. This has __nothing__ to do with the UK "Porn filter". Absolutely, categorically... nothing.
Here is a screenshot of one of the actual filters recently implemented (by an ISP called BT) with new accounts defaulting to the "Light" pre-set, which customers must opt out of: http://i.imgur.com/dWxORfJ.png
In the UK, this is already the default: adult content is blocked by ISPs, unless you check a box. The percentage of people who have the box ticked roughly correlates with the percentage of households with children. This bill goes further in requiring age-verification to be run by every site serving adult content, or be blocked in the UK altogether. The reasoning is that children can still browse pornography if they are not connected to their home network, and this will stop that happening.
All these filters by ISPs are optional.
Is it that hard to say "hell no" when they ask you "do you want us to block stuff?"
The amount of misinformation spread about this mythical "UK porn filter" is astounding, but I guess unsurprising as it fits completely into the orwellian surveillance state conspiracy theory agenda.
Cameron is pandering to worried parents who believe the internet is a bad place, and little Johnny must be protected by a filter. The government believe it will mean they'll win the next election. It's just politics.
It's nothing whatsoever about censorship. Anyone can opt out of the filters, and anyone can get past the filters with a couple of clicks.
edit: anyone downvoting actually live in the UK? Any of you actually have any hard facts? Or are you just regurgitating the crap you read on the internet.
There's no law backing this filter: It's pushed through via the UK governments favourite backdoor way of getting unaccountable censorship through, namely the threat of legislation unless the private companies involved act on their own accord.
The private companies avoid pesky government involvements, and the government can wash their hand of it if/when something goes wrong.
See also how UK ISPs delegate child porn filtering to a totally unaccountable organisation called the Internet Watch Foundation.
UK cellular network operators by default enforce an ‘adult content filter’, and require you to provide proof of being over 18 to get this removed (typically in the form of a credit card number as an identifier, not as a mechanism to be charged).
These content filters block large swaths of the internet. Urban Dictionary is the one that trips me up every time I change networks.
LGBTQIA+ related content has typically gotten caught up in this as well.
You’re lucky if your Internet operator does not care. Unfortunately, there’s plenty of places where censorship is rampant, under the guise of just “think of the children.”
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/parents-asked-if-adult-we...
> But ministers have always been clear that if industry did not go far enough or fast enough, the government would consider further action - including potentially regulation.
The filter is turned on by default from the biggest ISPs however each one of them asks if you would like to disable it during the onboarding process.
Same goes for mobile internet, the only diffence there is if you are using PAYG you have to validate your age via a credit card or using a form of ID at your providers local store.
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