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To be honest I don’t understand how it’s thought that police have to much power. Especially since every case makes it’s way in front of a judge.


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A case eventually making its way to a judge isn't really a counter-argument to how much power police have.

Things like asset forfeiture, qualified immunity, etc. are all pretty strong arguments that police have too much power. Not to mention all of the cases where someone innocent is killed by police, where the victim doesn't get to go in front of a judge because they are dead.


The issue isn’t the police it’s the courts allowing police to do anything they please.

Police in the US (and the prosecuting attorneys) have incredible amounts of discretionary power.

The police want to do their jobs but judges won't allow them to.

I don't mean to be flip, but police do not have the power to imprison people; it's Juries and Judges do that.

You have no rights in front of a cop. You only have rights in front of a judge. A cop can break every single one of your rights as they want, including kill you. It's frankly the most absurd system to ever exist. Your rights should exist well before it makes it to court (if you want to wait that long...if you get a court date). This whole system that cops can escalate your punishment and practically ruin your life financially is the greatest injustice in criminal justice system of the US. But talk of worker protections and limiting police powers is evil rhetoric here among the actual ruling class.

I agree it doesn't sound so bad, but from another perspective: why should a cop be given the authority to demand a law abiding citizen move 25ft for any reason?

That's just unchecked power waiting to be abused and there's simply no reason cops have given the public to believe they won't abuse power frequently, if given the opportunity.


The fact that the police currently abuse their power isn't a good reason to give them additional legal latitude to do so.

More so, it is court protection. Read the verdicts of most police who have been tried in court.

Criminals should fear justice. The police is NOT the judge and jury. The police responsibility is to bring someone, alive, in front of a judge, with proof of wrongdoing. It is called separation of duties.

People tend to forget that the job of the police is to apprehend not punish. Punishment is of course for the courts.

That's the point of separating powers - the police shouldn't judge or carry out sentences.

Seriously? Cops really can't do anything unless all the evidence is gathered by citizens and then handed to them?

Police have a great deal of latitude in how they enforce the law.

Ever been to court when it was your word against a police officer? Who would you imagine the court, jury or your peers will believe?


Doesn't this completely go against the trias politica principle? The police effectively playing judge and determining the penalty, without due process and even worse, for their own benefit?

Frankly I'm at a loss for words here. It's wrong on every imaginable level. The most worrying to me is, that there seem to be so many people who do NOT see anything wrong with it.

Do so many people miss a basic grasp of right and wrong, of the building blocks of our society? And what are they doing in the police force?


I'm going to say that it is entirely unreasonable for the police to be ignorant of the law.

You're actually missing a huge point in this, it gives the police the ability to selectively block the justice system.

If a police officer sees a defendant that they wish to let off the crime, all they have to do is testify to some trivial mishandling of the evidence.


Indeed, being able to tell a cop you'll have your long list of very expensive lawyers contact them has a habit of slowing them down amazingly quickly.

If only law enforcement faced severe penalties for abusing their power, given they should be held to a higher standard of demonstrating good values and restraint in such roles in society.


And yet, American citizenry at large and the justice system in general gives the police the benefit of the doubt in all matters versus the populace. Are we really that dumb as a country? If you have to ask...
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