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Firing for gross misconduct is a reasonable exception, but not all firings in general.


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Fired does not imply wrong-doing. Fired can be termination w/out prejudice.

According to that link you can be fired for "Gross Misconduct", which seems about right in this case.

Employers rarely fire people for arbitrary reasons, then.

Yes, gross misconduct is a valid cause for termination. I think an employer would have a very tough time justifying behaviour like this.

Which is crazy. But just because you can fire someone for no reason doesn't mean you can fire them for illegal reasons, which appears to be the case here.

You redefined firing to be whatever you want it to be. It's a bit nonsensical to assume all firings are employer abuse.

Employers are absolutely allowed to fire employees for any or no reason as long as the reason isn't specifically illegal (e.g. on the basis of race or gender).

Isn't being fired implicit evidence of wrongdoing? Especially when it's not an isolated incident.

Being fired isn’t a legal consequence.

No, "most people" don't get fired at some point in their careers. This is not normal.

You can't legally be fired for that reason though.

That only counts for logical arguments. There is an assumption that if a reason is given for firing someone, anyone should be fired under the same circumstances on basis of fair treatment.

There is a distinction but it's not the one you were originally making. Which seems important in a discussion about kinds of harms. Firing someone is not assault.

Just about everywhere in the US, people can be fired without any reason at all. It is up to someone who is fired to show that they were fired for a reason that is illegal.

Can you point to an example in the US where someone has been fired based on an accusation without any evidence?

But IANAL firing some one for telling their co-workers about their right to unionize is an illegal reason to fire someone. I'm not completely convinced that's what happened here but still

My employer can fire me for severe misconduct that occurs away from the office. Is that any different? Isn't this normal at most companies?

I seriously couldn't image that there wouldn't be? Outside of just being a horrible person, you would be firing a perfectly good employee.

I feel like there's a wrongful termination suit right there. I don't know how people could get away with it. It seems they do?


You get UI even if fired unless it was for misconduct. Being bad at your job is not misconduct.
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