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Yes, for a lot of classes of products I simply do not buy from Amazon any more. The counterfeiting and inventory co-mingling (such that you can't even filter for trustworthy sellers) has destroyed a lot of Amazon's usefulness.

IMO Amazon's foray into 3P market-making will ultimately be seen as an attempt to grow the product that ends up killing the product.

Even besides the counterfeiting, there's just so much crappy junk. Want lightbulbs? Wade through page after page of crappy no-name brands who all have fake/gamed reviews, so you can't tell the good from the bad. Want a name-brand lightbulb? Well, then we're back to the counterfeiting problem.

Even when I do buy from Amazon there's at least a 50% chance what I buy will be some cheap bullshit with faked reviews that will fall apart in under a month of use. Amazon is worse than the Walmart discount bin.

Amazon has weirdly given me a newfound appreciation for traditional retailers. There is value in the curation - in filtering bad products so that as a customer I can shop with confidence, and that even if I don't do too much research the product I buy will be good enough - or at least authentic and safe.

The complete laissez-faire free-for-all model just results in me Googling for product reviews for the most mundane things I buy. It is a massive time-sink.



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I will be adding books to the list now too, but the number of categories I won’t shop for on Amazon has ballooned in just the past couple of years. It’s amazing to browse the reviews of brand-name products ranging from kitchen gadgets to yard tools, to even board games, and see customers saying things like “much cheaper plastic than the one I bought at Target” or “huge downgrade in card printing and game piece quality.” It’s not impossible that some of these might legitimately be massive cost-cutting measures by the OEMs, but I have to think most are the result of Amazon’s rampant counterfeiting problem.

In fact, I don’t think I really even have a product category blacklist anymore; it’s more of a whitelist. The only thing I will buy at Amazon are products that should be impossible to fake (beyond the industrial design), like an iOS device.


I've also completely stopped buying from Amazon. I will go so far as to exclude amazon.* from my search results when I'm searching online for an item.

Reasons:

- Receiving broken, clearly used/returned, or counterfeit items.

- Product reviews obviously gamed and useless.

- Sticking their nose into political issues. Just run your services please and don't try to tell me what to read or think.


No. Amazon is pushing smaller sellers into their marketplace platform which is ride with counterfeits, thieves, and garbage products with fake reviews purchased on Facebook. My wife and I stopped going to Amazon because product quality started getting so bad. It's to the point that I trust Alibaba or eBay over Amazon, which is a shame. I suspect there's a lot of less vocal people in the same boat who've started exploring other merchants.

It's gotten bad enough that there are entire product categories I completely avoid on Amazon due to the likelihood of counterfeit. If I'm looking for a specific brand of electronics (say, Anker or Apple) I'll buy it off Newegg or direct from a brick and mortar. If I can't be bothered or it's not at the store, I'll order it from that store or manufacturer's website (Home Depot, Fry's, etc.).

For a lot of other things, the price is so close or the exact same, I'll just buy it from the store. I do a lot of woodworking, so I buy a fair amount of stuff from a number of brands that people aren't really counterfeiting (yet)- for those I'll buy using prime, unless it's at one of the woodworking/hardware stores in the area. Then I'll just go get it myself, the prices are always within a small percentage of each other.

It feels like, for me, I do my window shopping at Amazon and execute my purchase locally, just because Amazon has gone downhill for me. I would be interested to know if other people are slowly coming to the behaviors I have.

Pretty much I get random small electronics components that don't need a great level of quality and just random other things that I don't care all that much about quality or origin. They've become my Alibaba in a way.


I no longer buy anything important from Amazon, this especially goes for anything that plugs into the mains, I just don't trust Amazon any more. Amazon is now just for those low value items that I might need in a bit of a rush. This is especially true now that more and more retailers have caught up with Amazon's shipping (at least here in the UK).

They seem to want it both ways. They have simultaneously tried to argue that they are not responsible for third-party sellers and blame them when fake and/or unsafe goods are sold, but then they work hard to make it appear that everything is coming from one place. It gets particularly annoying when it's a product with lots of variations (colours/sizes etc) where each variant will be a different seller with different shipping.


I've stopped purchasing from Amazon nearly entirely now directly because of the decline in quality of their products and issues with counterfeits.

When there's something I want, I might research it on Amazon, then I go to the manufacturer's site and find an authorized reseller to buy it from.


I honestly think it's high time Amazon did this. I've been a big fan of purchasing products from them in the past but over the past couple of years, the entire experience has left me feeling very unsatisfied as it is blatantly obvious how their market is being gamed by unscrupulous sellers, low quality products and an epidemic of fake/paid reviews.

Trying to buy quality items in certain popular categories (eg: screw driver set, chargers, flashlights, etc.) is all but impossible as you have to wade through pages and pages of low quality Chinese made knockoffs with weird brand names and of course, 1000+ 5-star reviews.

It's gotten to the point that my wife and I have been purchasing more and more items through Walmart, Target and Home Depot. They've all upped their game to compete against Amazon, and I'm happy to wait an extra day or two to receive an item in lieu of having a product that is likely better quality and the option for a frictionless return at a local store if needed.

As an ML engineer, it's clear to me that Amazon really hasn't cared about their reviews being gamed, or that their marketplace is now just a flea market being drowned in a sea of crap. Hopefully that changes going forward.


I’m also cutting way back on my amazon spend. I still buy when the reviews don’t indicate counterfeit red flags, but it’s fewer and fewer product categories each year.

Amazon is no longer the first place I look for many items; with things like Shopify, high-quality eCom experiences are available to basically every business in a way they were not 10 years ago. For branded products, I’ve started buying direct from the brand websites with mostly good results. I’ll probably cancel Prime next year.


My view of Amazon is already so degraded due to counterfeit and defective products that I wasn’t surprised when reading this article and I have actually been explicitly avoiding the products labeled “Amazon’s Choice.” I’m not joking.

I've switched to other independent online shops as I can usually find what I want. I just search for "buy 'something' uk" on duckduckgo and can always find a few good non-Amazon sellers.

I avoid Amazon as much as possible now since it's no longer possible to rely on their reviews and there are way too many results to be able to find one that's not fake or of extremely poor quality.

I'm starting to appreciate going to brick-and-mortar shops again and having the choice between only a dozen of good quality products, instead of thousands cheap barely usable ones.


Shopping on Amazon has become unbearable for like 95% of categories these days. The experience is like rummaging through some shady tourist market with a dozen stall owners trying to scam you. The pricing is all whack with lots of counterfeits that have gamed the ranking and review systems. It’s just not worth trying to filter and find things that are actually competitively priced and sold directly by Amazon.

Have no idea how they are so dominant still when they seem to not care at all about these things.


Amazon shopping is becoming increasingly pointless as one or more of the following are true:

- There are multiple products, sometimes dozens, which are actually the same product in the same or different colors, and often with a variety of nonsense manufactorer names. So there is the appearance of choice while actually the non-same items are difficult to find (needle in haystack)

- Products tend to be very low quality. If you take time to read the reviews, it's obvious that many of the high reviews are stuffed. The low score reviews usually tell the same story: a critical part breaks on first use, or a critical flaw renders the item completely unsuitable for the task it is intended for.

- Counterfeits... I don't even need to get into this, as it's a very well-known problem.

Unfortunately, the Walmart effect applies here too, because the low prices attract most shoppers, and the small players (and brick and mortar stores) can't compete and go out of business. If they try to compete, they typically just find the same garbage manufacturers who are selling on Amazon. It's a race to the bottom.

As consumers, we end up with items that are either useless on arrival (and not even worth returning), or they are far less than we would have hoped or wished for or been willing to pay for.

The great irony is, with the ability to import items from around the globe, and the significant number of online stores, it can still be impossible to find even a decent simple item (such as an extended reach car wash brush).

Even if you search more broadly than directly on Amazon, you see the same few items across most online retailers. And when you read reviews of the items on each retailer website, you see the same low score complaints... sometimes in such detail that you can be certain that it was the exact same product.

I see no solution to this. There is one country where most of this garbage comes from, but any special measures to penalize their exports will just result in shifting the manufacturing to another don't-care country which will pick up the slack.

Imagine the total cost of this situation, from materials consumption to trash piles (which is a short process for many of these products). It's an obscene waste.

/rant


Amazon's "lock on all of that" has pretty much ruined their brand from a retail seller standpoint. They're catalogue is overrun with garbage and counterfeits. It's quickly becoming eBay. I used to look at stuff in brick and mortar stores and then buy from Amazon. Now I look on Amazon for research and buy from brick and mortar stores so I know I'm not buying Chinese counterfeit garbage.

Amazon's counterfeit problem has ruined it for me. Like eBay before it, it's mostly a place to window shop for me now. Despite the massive amount of work they put into their logistics, they seem to have no trusted supply chain.

I've stopped buying from Amazon, period.

My biggest issue with Amazon is that most of the products listed are garbage. I went from spending an average of $20k/yr on Amazon to spending less than $500/yr. I now refuse to buy on Amazon unless it's a product /from/ Amazon, which is mostly digital books because I have a Kindle and a I read a lot. Once my local grocery store started offering same-day delivery of groceries and other sundries, almost all my expected Prime purchases can just go to the local grocery. Everything else, I am more concerned about quality than almost anything else, and Amazon just fails for every product category to offer discoverable high quality options.

I am sure Amazon executives don't care, because most consumers are price-motivated, not quality motivated, but I basically only buy things online directly from the manufacturer now or an authorized brick and mortar retailer I can call on the phone and get confirmation of the product before receiving it. Amazon is just full of garbage, mostly "brands" that are all the same Chinese junk off Alibaba, and if it is a major brand, it ends up often being counterfeit. Completely untrustworthy, and it makes me sad, because historically as a consumer I liked the experience of buying on Amazon.

What's more shocking is unprompted, my parents and siblings are also now avoiding Amazon. In many cases they've been buying through Walmart with in-store pickup, because that fits into their day-to-day life and has a much higher quality bar. Yes, Walmart quality is higher than Amazon quality in basically every product category.


I very occasionally still Hy things from Amazon when I have absolutely no other chance. But I do everything I can to find the time locally and buy it instore or from another more reputable online retailer than amazon (which is pretty much anyone except ebay and aliexpress)

When I want commodity items that don't have a specific manufacturer (HDD enclosures, small tools, etc), I'll go to aliexpress because it's exactly the same things as sold on amazon but for a quarter of the price. I just have to wait 3 weeks longer than on amazon.

I don't even get books from Amazon anymore, because there are pirate prints of books.

It's all fun and games when it's just about having the item break after a couple of weeks because it was a low quality copy, but amazon also sells more dangerous things like Christmas lights with fake CE and UL markings or PPE that aren't sturdy enough to meet the norms they supposedly adhere to.

Not even mentioning the returned and used items sold as new for the full price, or the appalling way in which Amazon treats its workers.

It doesn't even make life that much more complicated, and thinking whether I want something so much as to go to the store or wait a month to get it from China is an excellent filter to block impulse purchases.


Yeah Amazon is worthless to me for the last few years. The reviews are fake, the search is terrible, and many of the products are counterfeit or resold/returned items. When I realized that I canceled my prime subscription and now when I search for products I explicitly exclude any results from amazon.* domains.

This mirrors my sentiments exactly. Peak Amazon for me was about 3 or 4 years ago - I would order from Amazon without even thinking about it. Now, you can’t use it unless you know exactly what you want, because their search is unusable, and with the prevalence of counterfeit goods mixed in with all the legitimate stock… It’s become less of a hassle to just order from the manufacturer, if it’s anything I really care about.
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