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zdenham · 2022-12-03 21:10:02

I agree, the python code is not good at all, and at the moment would not work for any realistic application.

The issue is more with the premise of an AI writing code potentially harmful to humans, especially it gets better

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gazpacho | karma 28 | avg karma 1.08 · | 2023-07-20 05:34:27

The Python code is much, much worse.

codeape | karma 42 | avg karma 1.05 · | 2018-12-18 16:58:21+00:00

Totally agree. The author needs to read the Python docs.

AbsoluteCabbage | karma 0 | avg karma 0.0 · | 2023-05-11 13:52:22

I love me some Python, trust me. But this is just putting lipstick on a pig. The language needs to be rewritten from the ground up. If you’ve ever analyzed the machine code a simple python script spits out you’ll see how helplessly bloated it is.

astrange | karma 14132 | avg karma 1.32 · | 2022-08-28 19:44:44

I, meanwhile, find AI research distasteful because it’s written in Python.

insanitybit | karma 4243 | avg karma 2.69 · | 2023-11-18 11:53:59

I don't agree with the characterization of the script being written by someone else. The model is writing that script, they're just offloading execution of that script to Python.

TheOtherHobbes | karma 24030 | avg karma 3.21 · | 2023-10-19 03:38:42

I suppose there's a certain irony in an AI system not knowing what Python is.

It would be even more ironic if it was Python code that made the decision.

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Redoubts | karma 2512 | avg karma 2.32 · | 2023-01-14 18:54:39

Do you think it does? CS is a field with many wild ideas and I don’t think python is that far into the weeds. Definitely not around 2018 when this was written. A lot of it’s big problems are 90s-scripting-language problems.

kristopolous | karma 15012 | avg karma 3.59 · | 2020-12-20 20:23:03+00:00

There's some really terrible python code out there these days. It's on its way to becoming the next node. I know this reality will anger people but I'm sorry, I'm just a messenger here.

wasmitnetzen | karma 1358 | avg karma 4.03 · | 2024-02-07 15:03:20

You can write bad code in any language, I fail to see how that's Python's problem.

muragekibicho | karma 165 | avg karma 1.59 · | 2024-02-03 04:11:00

Built for devs interested in AI but find the Python language super insufferable

astrea | karma 637 | avg karma 1.71 · | 2019-12-08 17:19:48

My opinion is that python shouldn't be used for mission- critical systems anyway.

ak217 | karma 5284 | avg karma 4.34 · | 2012-02-11 21:10:31+00:00

Yes - I agree with you in principle. Python is not the perfect combination of computer language design and cognitive compatibility - it's just that I think it's doing better at it than anything else that has traction right now. Hopefully something better will come along and improve on it!

mylons | karma 1471 | avg karma 2.35 · | 2024-06-15 13:15:24

wow, someone thinks python is bad? what year is it? 2003?

JohnFen | karma 30257 | avg karma 1.9 · | 2023-12-28 15:22:49

Agreed. This is one of the reasons why I avoid using Python whenever possible. Python code I write today is unlikely to be functional years from now, and I consider that a pretty huge problem.

2024throwaway | karma 473 | avg karma 2.19 · | 2024-02-07 02:22:09

I did watch the video.

> which makes all the discussion more appealing

I have never experienced AI making anything more appealing. YMMV. I also have no need to generate images.

> have you look at the size and quality of the code? It is enough small

I agree it is a very small code base, in that it does basically nothing. Not sure how I'm supposed to view this as a positive. As far as quality, it looks like pretty much all the other python code I've seen.

> One of the code reviewers is a top Python community participant though.

Cool.

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george_____t | karma 6 | avg karma 0.75 · | 2023-07-19 12:03:03

Python isn't the best language for exploring this sort of thing, by the author's own admission.

kickopotomus | karma 631 | avg karma 2.21 · | 2018-07-19 17:17:37

I agree with this sentiment but it is a bit of a double edged sword for Python professionally. There is some really good Python code out there but there is also a lot of bad stuff too. I know this can be said for every language but I think I have seen it most in languages like JS and Python because of the ease of access.

antirez | karma 24954 | avg karma 7.98 · | 2023-11-13 04:14:23

Linkbait at its finest. But it's true that the Python AI stack sucks big times.

disgruntledphd2 | karma 6481 | avg karma 1.73 · | 2022-10-03 14:24:06

Completely agreed, but it's probably the Python part that's causing the problems, tbh.