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> People already have learned what SD pics look like and are generally just annoyed when people share them on social media now. The novelty has worn off.

I have not, and I’m both fascinated by what they can do and love seeing all that art.



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> While some of the behaviour here is less professional than I'd expect for user data

It's like showing up to a school shooting and saying while some of the behavior here is less professional than I'd expect for an interaction with children...

They. Are. Sharing. Your. Intimate. Photos. Using. Them. As. Background. For. Their. Memes.


> having your photos on the Internet only hurts you because we choose to have it hurt people. That’s completely changeable.

I think you are much too casually regarding human nature and millennia of human interactions.


> Hows about that?

All I put on Instagram are landscapes and some cityscapes. I do not see like giving away any privacy doing that. Alas, phot-sharing days of Instagram are in the past and stories get more and more annoying every day without any option not to see them :(


> How does that make you feel? It would sketch me the fuck out.

I would also not like it right away, but I would be willing to listen to their reasons for it.

I don't like pornography (whether it is a "naked picture of a hot white chick" or a "cute asian dude with a big dick"), and also don't intend to indulge sexual interests in the workplace, but what is need in this case is to know which collections of pictures are more helpful for testing digital image processing. And, anyways the picture is cropped.

(However, I think that for test images, it is better to have a variety of pictures to use for testing instead of only one. They should not all be photographs of people, either, although it is helpful if some of them are.)


> Presumably both of you will now go ahead and post naked pictures of yourself since you don't care if anyone sees them?

Don't get your hopes up. Everyone has a lot to say on this topic and why 'Our culture is bad. Everyone should grow up - having your nudes online is not a big deal', but they'll never deliver themselves.


> You can make a pic, send it through snapchat, and be confident that regardless of the outcome (people loved it or hated it) they would never be able to see it again.

Yeah, not so much. If there weren't things like screenshots, perhaps. A browse through Reddit's seedier parts proves this ephemerality a lie.


> I find it distasteful. I get it - people died, you don't have to show me their bodies to get your point across.

For many people seeing photos sends across very different emotions than reading words.


> you will be shocked how poorly they look and how far we have come in terms of the quality of Instagram content.

pics of photoshopped faces and body is quality content of instagram


> it’s made me consider posting my photos to a website.

Please do, I’d certainly be curious to see them.


> Just like you somehow restrain yourself from photographing someone else's picture and then selling it.

But screenshotting and reselling peoples NFTs is one of my favorite hobbies.


> Some are accessing the images by paying subscriptions to accounts on mainstream content-sharing sites such as Patreon.

> Some of the image creators are posting on a popular Japanese social media platform called Pixiv

Oh lord. To me, that sounds like they are going after underage hentai, which is a can of worms I don't even want to think about.

I ran into the fringe of this in the SD community in 2022. There is a 4chan model, which I shall not name, that I vaguely suspect contained (real life) underage pictures in the dataset. This model was merged into at least two other popular models awhile ago, hence I think it has "polluted" many other SD 1.5 models down the merging family tree.


> That kind of situation is already sickening, but the creation of fake nude images adds another layer of transgression.

Wouldn't it make it less of a problem? At some point people will just assume all of the photos are fake.


> And so aren't social networks the real backups by now?

I hope not. I cringe when I see people who treat them like they are. What do you do when your account password gets cracked(it happens to people on Facebook a lot), or the site itself goes away(MySpace)? Also, you're not able to store the images in their original form; I'm pretty sure sites like these will have limitations on what you can upload. I'm not a pro-photographer by any means, but there's no way I could upload a RAW file to Facebook.


> rare as it might be, there are people of both genders who actually enjoy receiving unsolicited nudes

I’m a nudist. I don’t enjoy receiving “unsolicited nudes” but a lot of acquaintances from that zone of my life do send photographs that sometimes depict them undressed in pursuit of whatever activity it is they’re depicting — usually the body in the picture is not the point of the exercise.

This just impedes the day-to-day communication of some folks. Imagine if Instagram were bought up by fundamentalists and suddenly implemented a filter that blocks all photographs of women who are not wearing headscarves.

It’s just yet another frustrating obstacle to overcome put in place by prudes.


> If you are as concerned as you sound don't leave the house. People can take your picture in public and do what they like with it.

sounds like exactly the kind of attitude that

>> I basically have no option of recourse, because there's a revised culture thanks to Facebook which tells me it's outside of my hands now.

is complaining about.


> we just need to discourage its more overt forms

I think we've done a pretty good job about this, what we're left with is people taking pictures of themselves costing $0, and perhaps posting them on free sites for people who want to view & share such things. That's just about as out-of-your-face as you can get.


> My only hope is that this extreme enshittification of online images will make people completely lose trust in anything they see online, to the point where we actually start spending time outside again.

Well in a weird way it will provide cover. You could post nudes of yourself online and just explain it away as bad actors using AI.


> Don't take digital photos that you don't want the world to see.

Gah, what a sad, terrible world we have built.


> and I do think we should start preparing for a future where images are not something we can trust

I'm not sure we can entirely 'trust' images/photos anyway right now. Even a 'genuine/undoctored' image, paired with partial/misleading info or outright lies has an impact on what we take from an image anyway.

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