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I don't see Elon's plane marked.


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Given that you can view the accurate ICAO hex address for his aircraft on registry.faa.gov, it's clear that he's not part of the PIA programme. ElonJet didn't do anything other than automate an API feed from ADSB Exchange, which uses the hex from the FAA.

The jet’s location is public information though. Elon is broadcasting it (by FAA law)

So? It doesn't say "powered flight speed record."

This was not a test flight.

Neither is the location of Elon’s jet, yet this policy is obviously targeted at that.

“the owner has made it publicly available” also describes Elon’s ADS-B receiver, incidentally. It broadcasts to the public.


An aircraft that last flew decades ago is not relevant here.

How would I know "N628TS" is Elon's jet?

Nowhere on the page does it say it's sponsored by Airbus.

Musk is lying.

This is what an aircraft in the PIA programme looks like. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a0fe01

Note the 'PIA' flag and lack of additional information that would normally be pulled from the registry. In fact if you searched the registry for A0FE01 you would not find the actual aircraft but a placeholder.

Musk uses three jets, N628TS, N272BG, and N502SX. None are in the PIA programme, all are easily visible on ADSB Exchange and most importantly have their ICAO hex codes listed publicly on the FAA registry, along with ownership information.

So please, let's stop repeating this false claim.

N628TS:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul...

N272BG:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a2ae0a

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul...

N502SX:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a64304

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul...


That's the problem. Its now public that Elon made the offer. If it was done quietly, that would be a different story. Maybe he did make the offer quietly, but it was refused.

Boeing fly F-16s and Lockheed sometimes fly F/A-18s. I've heard stories about the engineers/test pilots exchanging safety of flight related information to a competitor. This is done with full permission of both companies.


I don't think they've flown that flight in a lot of years....

given that they're a reseller there probably is no aircraft with their livery as pictured either

It strikes me that the flying airplanes side of the business has nothing to do with their web site.

No need look for implications, there was a clear statement that it's flyable:

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/73427436058892697...

It's being recruited as the testing leader because it represents the extreme, not because it's grounded.


The test flight hasn't been scheduled yet. This is just a page talking about what will happen during it.

Oh yes, the Plane that is operated by DARPA and not NASA.

Because they're stealth military planes and broadcasting it's exact position to Musk owned network is literally the primary thing it should NOT do.

This does not seem to be sound engineering to me.

Just the sole fact that they have no payload faring tells me that they don't have a single man with aeronautic engineering background.


I would guess that the secret aircraft of today, likely as not don't have people in them.
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