>Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info.
"Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info.
Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn’t a safety problem, so is ok."
"Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info.
Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn’t a safety problem, so is ok."
"live location information, including information shared on Twitter directly or links to 3rd-party URL(s) of travel routes, actual physical location, or other identifying information that would reveal a person’s location, regardless if this information is publicly available;"
Posting links to other websites that may enable sharing Elon's location is now a bannable offense.
"so far, i’ve been able to confirm about half the accounts suspended posted links to the jet tracker thing in violation of the new doxx’ing policy. unclear just yet about the rest, but i think it’s safe to say the rule is for real."
Twitter's policies define doxxing as the posting of private information that was not made publicly available by the owner. They also specifically allow "sharing information that is publicly available elsewhere, in a non-abusive manner".
ElonJet and all of the other similar bots tracking interesting aircraft are using information that is broadcast unencrypted by the aircraft itself to anyone within radio range (sometimes hundreds of miles) who has a compatible receiver (including the famous $15 RTL-SDR) and publicly shared through multiple aggregators like ADS-B Exchange, FlightAware, and FlightRadar24.
This data is legally required to be broadcast, so it's definitely not private, and it's definitely publicly available elsewhere.
Elon would probably argue that it was abusive, but that's a lot more subjective. As far as I'm aware the account never tweeted anything but the facts of his jet's movements.
‘Mr. Musk tweeted last month: “My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk.” On Wednesday, though, he equated the practice to doxxing, or the publishing of private information online with malicious intent, tweet-ing: “Real-time posting of someone else’s location violates doxxing policy, but delayed posting of locations are ok.”’
> Our primary aim is to protect individuals from potential physical harm as a result of their information being shared, so we consider information such as physical location and phone numbers to be a higher risk than other types of information.
> Under this policy, you can’t share the following types of private information, without the permission of the person who it belongs to....home address or physical location information
So Elon essentially gave permission, and now he has revoked it.
The difficulty those on the other-side of this argument have is that they themselves are not arguing that this shouldn't be the policy, and that this "doxing" behavior is not wrong. In fact, no one is.
There is not a single person claiming free speech is being violated here. There is not any kind of movement or group that is campaigning for doxing of location information as a right.
Essentially, people are saying: you are not allowing the things that no one thinks should be allowed anyway.
“Private information: You may not publish or post other people's private information (such as home phone number and address) without their express authorization and permission. We also prohibit threatening to expose private information or incentivizing others to do so. Learn more.”
Now.. his fight information is technically “public” but in that same sense, phone numbers and street addresses are also “public”. Thus, a suspension to the flight tracking account seems in alignment with Twitter policy.
Elon claimed he would not “ban” the account. And he has not done so. They were suspended.
Okay edit lol: I _actually_ didn't know that "Suspended" is the equivalent to "Permanently Suspended" aka"Banned" on twitter. Shocking, I know. I walk back my second statement.
>"Don't publish someone's location in realtime (24 hour delay is required)" seems like a simple rule that can be enforced even-handedly against both sides.
He posted a real-time photo of X at twitter HQ like two weeks ago. And then a picture of him getting his badge.
Should Elon suspend his own account for doing that?
This might be the first post in this thread stating the alleged actual reason for the bans: they posted screenshots of the location tracking or linked to the Mastodon tracker account, breaking the rule against sharing real-time locations. That's the claim at least. Also, Musk states that these bans are not permanent and the accounts will be reinstated: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603591994244071424 He also posted a poll on the suspension time: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609466301059073
In the article update, it says that Elon commented on suspensions and it looks like the suspensions are for doxxing. If that's the case, it makes perfect sense to me. The doxxing has been rampant of Twitter, including by many of the journalists.
It's public information (ADB-S) and the account is exercising its freedom of speech. Elon said on twitter that "My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk" (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456)
I'm not the OP. I think the tweet the OP is referring to is not Elon's video of a man in a car. Instead, it is the tweet by Donie O'Sullivan where he published a statement from LAPD saying that no crime report had been filed in regards to the interaction Elon described.
The implication is that perhaps Elon is lying.
I'm not saying that he's lying. But Donie's account hadn't, unlike other journalists who got suspended, tweeted screenshots that showed how to find ElonJet on other platforms.
So it's not clear to me what he did to get suspended. His most recent tweets were to an interview he did with the ElonJet guy [1] and the tweet from the LAPD saying there was no criminal report.
Maybe the interview was "bad" enough to trigger the doxxing policy due to giving notoriety to the account? But if so, yikes.
Elon is pulling the wool to incite his mob. He states people are doxxing his real-time location. The only people he’s banning are those that reference publicly available FAA flight data. I even think the owner of the Twitter account put the tweet on a time delay. Far from the truth.
They doxx people all the time, just the other day they posted someones place of work and address*. Elon seems fine with it, he unbanned them and interacts with the account.
Pretty sure this comment is related to that recorded teleconference Elon joined to let everyone know that if you dox, even if you tweet about someone else doxxing and link to them, you're banned.
>Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info.
From https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603181423787380737
You can see Twitter's full policy here: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-info...
A hypothetical account that broadcasted the location of marginalized people in real time would not be allowed, is my understanding.
I think it would be good if we could get past the "your team vs my team" thing and talk about the best set of speech principles overall.
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