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> Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it.

Do you have evidence of that? He claims they were reporting the location.



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> I was curious about the lack of definitive evidence in this follow-up story.

The reporters followup story reports on 1) his own original story and 2) how other news shops 'customized' [ed] the original story.

1) He repeated the original story.

2) He said what the downstream stories said.

"Lack of definitive evidence" is not what this is.


> This sounds as if the journalist tries to downplay

Even if you disagree the history, why attribute it to someone else's intentions? What evidence do you have?


> How do you propose Casey should have challenged or verified whether the Aquila flew as well as claimed?

How did Bloomberg do it? By not publishing immediately, checking other sources. Also known as journalism.


> But that's not the standard for good journalism! You appear to be saying we should believe this story in Reason despite the long delay from the events, uncorroborated evidence, and clear bias of the author... because we can't prove it's false?

I never said that.


> This kind of conspiratorial thinking is just bizarre.

You’re really that convinced this is honest reporting? That media isn’t biased? Or is it just bias when the media reports something you don’t like?


> a journalist trying to get clicks

Now you've also fabricated something about the journalist, their motive and character. Do you have any factual basis for that? What do you know about the journalist?


> because the news media you follow isn't covering the content of the story.

That's not surprising, because it's manufactured and bogus.


> Is a newspaper article slandering him

It's not slander if it's true.


> You do understand the logical error you just made, right?

No. Help me out.

You said "There does not appear to be a single non-ultra-biased source reporting this story. Which means, as far as we know, it could be entirely nonsense."

Which means that since there are no sources you like, you choose to disbelieve it entirely. Therefore, I pointed out that many stories are not covered in major media outlets but are nonetheless true. So where's the logical error?


> I'd assume it's standard practice for journalists to confirm that multiple sources aren't essentially from the same source

I do not believe it is.


> they just decided to track journalists for fun with no-one telling them to?

That's not what I suggested in the slightest. Stop lying.

> seems pretty unlikely to me.

Sure, because I imagine they didn't just do it for fun. But that doesn't mean a more senior person has to be involved.

Back it up with evidence. Your feelings are worthless. I'm right, and you are wrong.


> The real fake news is coming from people who claim to definitively know what is happening in the war zone.

So you are conceding that the CBS article could be fake news as they are trying to claim what is happening in a war zone?.

My opinion is based off the response from the organisation that CBS interviewed.


> Are you suggesting that reputable newspapers are making up unnamed sources or are too careless to privately confirm that they're real?

No, they would never do that would they?!


> It was just made up BS. An ex-MI6 guy was paid through Fusion GPS to make it, nothing in it was verified, and the news ran with it like crazy anyways.

This is false. It wasn't just made up BS. Many elements have been verified, and the news didn't just run with it. In fact, all the news outlets that had it save one didn't run with it because they hadn't verified it enough, and it was until one news outlet ran it that the cat was out of the bag. And even when they ran it, they made it very clear the status of verification.

You are either ignorant and need to go do any level of research or a liar, in which case you should be ignored.


> is completely wack.

Truth is stranger than fiction and a journalist only lives by their credibility. He wouldn't publish it if he didnt think it was solid.


> I'm not claiming this means the story here is false, but frankly I'm surprised posts from this source are even allowed on HN.

And? Is what they have posted about this story false then? So their sources are wrong and are spreading conspiracy theories about this story then?

Rather than bringing up the past behaviours of newspapers and creating associations can you just comment on whether if the article is true or not.

If this particular story that is posted is proven to be false THEN you would have a point. In this case it is true and it is widely reported and also has credible sources for this article. You are welcome to prove otherwise.


> Even after it was proven that the story was true

Where did you get that that story was true? It was mostly fake but with some elements of truth in it. The story itselve didn't even seem credible was my POV.

Source?


> I would like to see more proof for this than just one guy saying he heard it from others.

I wish this exact same method of sourcing wasn't the basis for 95% of journalism these days.


> all major media outlets talking about it.

The issue is that, when it's (easily) demonstrated it's an exaggeration, the credibility of all major media outlets gets questioned, and rightly so.

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