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$150/mo just to keep it ready to drive? That doesn’t sound right.


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More than $400/mo wouldn’t be surprising if the true cost is calculated over a year. Insurance, parts, maintenance, gas, putting the winter tires on, etc, etc, etc.

That's almost 4x what I spent for my car. That's not even close to a reasonable price.

I’m not a huge fan of that large of a vehicle being out on the road either, but realistically, it costs well over 100k, there aren’t going to be that many out on the road any time soon.

Most of this is a red herring.


But this is $155. It needs to be an automobile :)

That's not exactly cheap or feasible for most cars.

> Expected to arrive priced in a range between $14,000-$20,000

Would you want to drive in a $14k day from a safety/quality perspective? How many "corners cut" does that represent?


160/mo seems very expensive. I pay $900/yr for my parents' car.

If I did, they wouldn't have one there for me to purchase. Their site indicates no stock and the cheapest vehicle they have can be ordered today for $40,630.

Also the outside of the thing is covered in cameras and I'm not spending $40k to drive around a car with tape all over it.


It'll cost waymo' than a regular car.

It's $600 because they likely don't keep it in stock anywhere nearby, and they only had a few in existence. For those you're better off going to a junk yard and getting one from the same brand vehicle.

The car may cost $45K to make, but that doesn't mean it's worth $45K. Maybe it's worse than the cheaper gas version.

The car has a lot of software that feels needlessly out of reach. A maps update of the proprietary map system is ~$600. This is crazy.

Those add up to <$100/mo if you do it right, and you generally shouldn’t finance cars.

Sure, while locking up $35k to $65k for up to six weeks. Pretty damn expensive test drive.

$1600 is more than a car?

I feel like you can't even find driveable cars that will last 100 miles at that price point anymore.


A brand new with markup replacement of the head unit/smart stuff guts of an ICE car I had was ~$1,500 including labor. That core essentially ran Android with a lot of custom skinning and applications, so essentially a cheap Android tablet slightly hardened to handle the heat of a car parked in the sun. What does a set of 19" wheels cost? A set of tires to put on those wheels? The full brake assemblies? The ABS system? We're easily now past a multiple of that cost of the smart stuff guts/head unit and we' don't actually even have a way to spin those wheels or change their direction much less seats or seatbelts or airbags or, you know, a frame.

The screen and radios are usually pretty darn cheap BOM-wise. You really think a computer with less compute capacity as a cheap modern cell phone makes up a significant portion of the cost of a new car?


that's about the same price as a well equipped toyota prius or hyundai ioniq

It's the cost of delivering the vehicle from the factory to the dealership.

This isn't how things are priced. They ask what they can get. If they could ask for more money for the car, why wouldn't they?
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