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we do have that info (perhaps presentation of such depends on phone software of course).

almost all my inbound calls are spam, in the united states. when i've listened to voicemails left, they even have native north american accented people reading the prerecorded scripts, so there's deep roots to the depravity that cross country borders.



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Lucky you. I usually get one or two spam calls a day in Europe (France/Germany) but they are marked as spam.

Bless the people keeping that red list up to date.

This thread makes me wonder if Americans have such info (whether a call is a likely spam) automatically pop up when receiving text or calls.


How do we get all these spam calls in North America then?

Time for my usual comment. No, it's not difficult. Every Telco knows where the call comes from and where it's routed to. Sure, the end-user doesn't necessarily know the origin, but there's regulation that would trivially solve this. "For each spam report, you're responsible unless you point out where you got the call from" if enforced would sort out the problem almost immediately.

Telco can't say how the call happened? Fine them. Telco can't sort out their spammy customer? Fine them. "Oh, but international calls!" - they can drop the spammy international peer - the US is large enough that nobody serious would risk getting disconnected.


International carriers still interconnect with a us carrier to deliver the calls. Spam is really easy to detect. Short call durations and lots of different call to numbers.

I live in Germany and for whatever reason I have literally never received a spam call here. I can go months without receiving a single call these days. I'm not exactly sure if spam calls are not a thing here or if I've just been lucky. But yeah I see how that can lead to different preferences when it comes to voice mail.

The US did this before most countries, actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Do_Not_Call_Registry

Most US spam calls originate outside of the US, though.


Honest question: are spam calls common in the US? I don't remember when / if I got any in Spain, Netherlands or UK (places I've lived and had cellphones for a prolonged time), I do remember, however, that when I managed to score a US number with Google Voice I'd regularly get weird spammy voicemails.

If that is the case, I wonder why that is!


Why does that mostly seem to be a problem in the US?

I'm from a first world country in Europe and I can count the number of spam calls I got over the years on one hand (literally 2).

Same goes for spam texts (3).

For legal reasons my phone number could be found on the open web for years.

With a fairly wealthy population (by world standard) and a language spoken by ~100 million people there should be ample opportunities to spam people.

Yet even my parents whose number were listed in the phone book get maybe 1 or two spam calls per year


It's different if the caller is also based in Europe but the worst offenders are not. I rarely get spam calls since I rarely pick up unless I know who the caller is and the odd times I get caught I just hang up.

MY dad went through a phase of being plagued because he is from a time when it would be considered rude not to engage in the conversation. As a consequence I suspect he was on some kind of suckers list?

It took a while to train him off this habit, then he discovered email...


Why is this problem unique to the USA?

I'm not saying I never get spam calls, but I certainly have to scroll back quite a bit in my phone call history to see the last one.

Also, on the rare occasion I do get a spam call it's always from some random international country like South Sudan or Oman that I would never expect a phone call from.

What makes this problem uniquely hard to solve for the USA as opposed to anywhere else?


> This thread makes me wonder if Americans have such info (whether a call is a likely spam) automatically pop up when receiving text or calls.

Yes, of course we do. Verizon and T-Mobile, at the very least, mark calls as "likely spam" reliably. Can't speak for any carriers as I've not been a customer of theirs for some time.


Most spam calls in the US originate overseas (India) and ignore US regulation such as do-not-call registries.

Some of the spam calls I received were from US phone numbers (I'm in the UK), but when I answered I ended up connected with someone with a Southern Asian accent speaking rather bad English.

Could you point to relevant research anyway? I'd be interested and maybe it's possible to "find" it somewhere.

This doesn't reflect my personal experience (anecdata I know) or those of any of the people I know.

I'll think I'll ask around because now I'm curious about the distribution. If a few people here are bombarded with spam calls it would average out the 1-2 a year me and my family/friends get on average on their mobile numbers.


People in the US don't get uniform amounts of spam calls, so I'm doubtful that your experience can be taken as representative of your entire country.

>if Americans have such info (whether a call is a likely spam) automatically pop up

Sometimes but not consistently.

Though honestly in the US I get maybe one SPAM call or text a week these days.


Maybe a standarized national system to report spam, or maybe even as part of the cellular protocol? I never heard of such a system deployed nationally, but I'm wondering if it could help.

Most of the time when a spam number calls me, I can find it through spam reports on 3rd party websites by googling it.


We don't have spam calls over here in Germany. I _never_ received one. There were 3 calls I remember that were doing research stuff, but that's all. And telling them to not call again would have solved it, btw.

It seems to be related to other stuff the US is behind on, but I've given up on finding out how it could be fixed in the general (last 20 years) political climate.


I think that's a good point. There's also the fact that most (nearly all?) spam calls come from India, where lots of people know English.
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