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Texas is probably required to track and publish the data as the result of a well-founded accusation that the arrest -> trial -> execution pipeline is racist.


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I'm not sure it would have mattered if this information had been admissible. Most of the Texans I have known had no sympathy for prisoners. I think this is at least partly because it's easy to be naive when you don't know people who are different from you, and the economic and cultural climate in Texas is highly self segregated.

My extended family is from Texas, but I grew up on the west coast, occasionally visiting relatives in Houston suburbs and other pleasant, relatively opulent areas. My aunts and uncles lived in nice neighborhoods and gated communities, and my grandparents house was on two acres next to a country club.

I moved to Texas as student and lived in Austin for a while, which was very enjoyable. However, I also traveled, and lived briefly in other parts of Texas, and was amazed at the degree to which people lived in different worlds from one another in the same state.

Outside of Austin and the nicer suburbs, a whole different picture started to emerge:

--I made friends who owed money to payday lenders and pawn shops, and friends that gave 5% of their income to check cashing stores because their credit wasn't good enough for banks.

--I started noticing people at work wearing anklets. One of them lost his job because he wasn't allowed to stay out past 9pm, and then couldn't pay his probation fees; I never saw him again.

--After I left Austin, I interacted with the police a lot, although I was never charged with any crime.

--I got handcuffed and searched because my license plate marker lights were the wrong color (white).

--I got searched because my vehicle “looked stolen.”

--When regular police or State Troops pulled me over, other mysterious authority figures sometimes showed up. I was searched on several occasions, sometimes with drug dogs, once by a man in a suit with an unmarked car and no badge.

--Police stings and paid citizen informants seemed common, and were often reported. A person who seemed like an obvious paid informant tried to get me to buy heroin, purchase a prostitute, and finally, in apparent desperation, give alcohol to a minor.

--I started hearing the N-word a lot but only from the poor whites, and especially regarding the jobs and other resources “they” were taking away from white people.

--Neighborhoods were highly segregated, and apparently self segregated by race, but only lower class people talked about which neighborhoods were “black neighborhoods” or “Asian neighborhoods.” (My suburban family members didn't bring this up.) When I made a delivery to the “Vietnamese neighborhood” my boss said: “watch out, or they'll eat your dog!” People said stuff like this all the time, and I got used to it.

--Every landlord used the same lease: a huge, crazy contract written by a state trade association. I was told that the terms of this lease couldn't be negotiated, because <something about state law??>.

--Protectionism seemed rampant. My family seemed to favor the “pro business” climate, and when I asked people if there is a difference between “pro business” and “pro market” I got blank stares.

In other words, when I left the opulent suburbs I was continually surrounded by craven scams and rent seeking behavior, but only a fraction of the people ever seemed to see the negative effects first hand, because most don't interact with people outside their class.

I guess you could say things like this about many places, but of all of the places I have been Texas seemed to me to be the most extreme. I have no idea if this is supported by evidence, or is merely an unrepresentative subjective impression (it would be interesting to figure that out somehow).

I think where people are less able to self segregate, people of different races and incomes sort of have to deal with each other, and have some face to face interaction that is beneficial to society. I live in NY at the moment, and local politics often involves acrimony over race and class. This may or may not be helpful, but at least it's harder to be as totally naive about how other people live as I was before I lived in Texas.


I live in Texas. It's a whole goddamn thing here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/10/us/texas-critical-race-th...


Not Texas specifically. I think it’s just good data driven reporting. Well the article is a bit clickbaity but it’s based on a data backed report.

That's terrible and completely believable. There's nothing the Texas government hates more than people of color, except women... and LGBTQ... and atheists... and liberals... and the disabled... and millennials... and anyone not born in Texas

I’m sure Texas is going to retaliate by not giving California police access to their data unless they agree not enforce gun laws.

It seems really dumb and petty.


Guilty until proven innocent, I see.

> It is Travis County, the liberal mecca of Texas.

There are lots of liberals who act in racist ways.


Texas has a fetish for murdering prisoners. They'll jump at any chance they can find.

Unfortunately, Texas is far and away the most corrupt state in the union. This isn't even a particular exaggeration, we know that the state has executed innocent people multiple times and their response is to double down on it.

I don't see a way for this man to have the case properly reevaluated. So he's trapped in the worst possible situation.


Isn't this the federal court system? Not sure: is Texas even able to do anything about this?

In this “post-racial” era, they’re trying to be more subtle:

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/30/texas-slavery-involu...


If Texans are so reliably and predictably racist that someone can plan such an outlandish far fetched hoax and still have it succeed, then perhaps the fact that they are racist is still the main story.

I don't like what they do in Texas, especially their witch hunt register. That said, this is pretty tasteless without further comment.

What’s with the racially charged description? I thought Texas was not about virtue signaling and political correctness.

That's because no other state has yet passed a law allowing that kind of bounty hunting of Texas political bodies.

Texas likes to pass a whole bunch of stuff that they know will be struck down by the courts. It is purely for political brownie points, there is no real expectation that these things go anywhere.

In this specific case the Texas Attorney General is being investigated by the FBI and hoping to court favor with Trump for a pardon.


This reminds me of a New Yorker article on the same topic (covering an even greater injustice, also in Texas -- in fact referred to in this article)

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/09/07/trial-by-fire


Wow that is fucked up, and yet sadly I think state side HN readers will rage more about the use of "loaded" words like blacklist, whitelist, slave database, dog balls (for javascript brackets) and so on before focusing on real problems - but where is the fun in that.

There's a good documentary about Texas throwing kids in the jail for trivial crimes for multiple years that highlights how retarded the system is (beyond this case), can't find title at the moment grr..


>giant pile of reasons for ill-will that the US state and Federal governments have been collecting.

Lets please not attack the other states because of Texan shenanigans. The fifty states are each semi-autonomous and as such can implement programs like this. This is an exception, not the norm.

>blowback happens through the democratic process

Why should it? Maybe Texans who work hard and pay their fines want the scofflaws to be caught like this? Democracy doesn't mean "things I like." It often means "things the average voter likes." Maybe this is "ill will" to you, but to a red state with a strong law and order culture to it, it may not be very controversial at all. You can't clamor for states rights in Texas, but also expect liberal soft-on-crime values. All politics is local.

Also, these people have capias warrants out for them at the time of this collection. Deadbeats who don't pay child support, ignore a civil judgements, ignore fines, etc get these. I don't really see a problem with this. If there's abuse here, it lies with how capias warrants are given out, not the technology used to enforce them. Why aren't we addressing the root issue here? Is there really an issue here other than SJW wankering?


Some people are using this post as an opportunity to bash Texas, but the article says he was arrested by DHS (federal authorities) in Seirra Blanca, which is in New Mexico. This doesn't have anything to do with Texas.
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