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and the other reason is that "cars are twice as expensive", which ignores the context completely, otherwise it would specify whether the cars are twice as expensive on paper, or twice as expensive in reality.


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> normal petrol cars have taxes that can be around 100%, doubling their value.

Id rather phrase that doubling their cost (making their relative value much lower).


> Usefulness is purely the decision of the buyer. You may think buying an expensive car to impress others is stupid, but so? All car sales don’t have to fit within your definition of usefulness.

Exactly. So saying that a more expensive car is always more useful is crazy. Maybe the more expensive car is too big for the roads where I live, or has worse fuel economy, or has less interior space.... Price and usefulness are not completely unrelated, but assuming they're equivalent is absurd.


> People WANT more expensive cars.

Because it's very easy to get financing for a car, that's why. If they had to pay it out of pocket you bet they'd choose the cheaper car.


>It's always cheaper to build two of the same thing than two different things.

Not if the second variant is cheap enough and/or will be sold in enough volume to recoup the fixed costs (engineering, tooling, etc) and still turn a profit.

If that weren't the case you'd only be able to get cars in black.

Edit: Is my math wrong or is reality inconvenient today?


> luxury car service cost

I was under the impression that they have less service costs due to fewer moving parts. Or maybe it comes out all the same since there's less to service, but when something does need servicing it's more expensive than usual.


> But, on the other hand, let's say I decide to forgo, say, a $60k car and instead get a still very nice $45k car.

Does anyone else have difficulty understanding why anyone would pay this much for a car? $45k is an order of magnitude more than I've ever paid for a car. Granted, I don't even like cars or driving, but the cars I've owned have been perfectly functional and any mechanical problems they've had still didn't add up to more than $10k.


> > 60k is just a bit more expensive than your average car

> If by "A bit" you mean about 30-40k

30k more expensive: Than your very-low-end-"average" car.

40k more expensive: Than your average used car.

AFAICS. All in what one sees as an "average" car, I suppose.


> 60k is just a bit more expensive than your average car

If by "A bit" you mean about 30-40k


It is relative to the context of the comment of why people might buy new vehicles when it does not appear to make economic sense.

People value different things differently.

> Are there really hundreds of thousands of people who are making $5,000+ a month necessary to justify the purchase of such an expensive vehicle?

Look around; do you see said cars? There you go.


>The car was valued at an amount equivalent to nearly $43,000 today.

>The automobile was near-totaled, a jumble of hubcaps, spark plugs and gaskets that racked up a repair bill adding up to $2,200 in today’s value

Weird, no?


>I've owned several cars, but the most expensive, shiny, sexy one cost $2.4k.

It didn't cost $2.4K new, did it?

Now your car likely wasn't a luxury car, and likely cost way more than $6K new.


> A £45k car is an expensive car for most people.

I have paid for 2nd hand car about 3k. Can imagine to buy new one for 20k but as someone who does not use it daily, 45k seems crazy for a car.


The context here is "first date".

There are far more important things to think about on first date such as "Do I like this guy?", not how expensive his car is.


> In reality it's $45-50k car.

Is something wrong with the $38k version?


> It's not about whether you or I buy a used petrol car over a new EV; it's about whether you & I buy a used petrol car over a new EV.

Was something supposed to be different there?


> Intuitively I would have thought cars are cheaper too - but a moment of research indicated they're actually more expensive.

This surprised me so I looked into it -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_longevity#Statistics

- in 1960 a car's lifetime was about 100k miles, while today it's about 200k.

https://www.thepeoplehistory.com/60scars.html

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38748092/new-car-average-...

- in 1960 the average new car cost $2,752 ($26,100 in 2022 dollars) - in 2022 the average new car costs $47,000

So in 1960 you'd pay about 26100/100000 = $0.26 / mile, whereas in 2022 you'd pay about $0.24 / mile. There'd also be qualitative differences in the experience like performance, comfort, safety, entertainment, etc.

On the whole it's not a lot cheaper (somewhere around 8%), but it turns out our intuitions were correct.


> cars that cost as much as some homes do

Homes in London? Not even close.


>My last car had 150,000 miles on it, and needed around $3000 of engine work (timing chain, head gasket). The car was only worth around $4000, so I traded it in on a new car.

I don't understand this logic. You had to put up way more money to buy a new car. Unless you really want a new car, there is no cost justification for buying something brand new that will lose more than the value of your old car in less than a year.

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