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Because they have ADHD and anxiety perhaps? Adapting to others pace, doing anything while being watched, being distracted by others regularly - these are some points of pain. Everything (except fighting or fleeing) is hard when you are in the fight-or-flight mode (and many people are in it chronically because their bosses&teams just won't leave them alone).


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Yes, it’s hard to explain that some people just want to “run fast”, and can’t operate in any other workplace environment.

They have larger life threatening problems to deal with like earning their livelihood. There are always people around you and even if they can't help you they keep you distracted.

apparently, for some, many even, this puts them under some stress and pressure, socially and organisatoric.

so what is the root cause? is it just the constant (often fake) urgency, the dull and repetitive nature of sprints and working on tickets, or the volume of work?

I myself have to remember to ease up on colleagues and that the phenomenon, at last where I work, is one of largely silent suffering.

When you work with computer code that obeys logic and that we have the power of telling the computer what to do, it’s easy to forget that humans are different, they have a dash of irrationality and emotion.

Also that many times, we just don’t have all the context behind why someone may be doing/not doing the things they are.


> Bad because it select people who can handle stress and distraction and doesn't complain?

Bad because they don't eliminate the stress (as much as possible) and distraction.


Must be difficult functioning in the real world if that’s so much of an issue.

> a painful option

Yes.

> many don’t really care enough about the enterprise’s overall success

Or they are unwilling to do what’s necessary because it is very painful or scary and they are exhausted.


Because they have no understanding of what this work is actually like.

And hence, of the fact that sometimes you need to step back for a while just to maintain your bloody health and sanity.


This is bad news. Most of these people are pushed to the brink normally because of the executive function loading of the task.

Historically, 90% of my Indian coworkers have had a much higher pain threshold than 90% of my domestic teammates. I can think of two individuals with a low tolerance for bullshit and I always wonder how they fit in socially over there.

I have to dig a lot or try to bring a problem into N.A. office hours before I see how much rote work is required to do a task and it’s almost always shockingly high. We write software for a living. Nobody should be running a static run book. We should be converting it to code.

I’ve often suspected it’s a job security thing.


They do it to escape from reality. Day-to-day grind is unbearable.

High stress, ultra-competitive workplace culture brings out the worst in people. This is not exactly a secret.

There's the time-opportunity cost - they can't afford to be perfectionists and squeeze 100% of what they potentially could from a situation, which is arguably undue stress as well - and will cause further externalized losses in what their other focuses are.

And c) overwork themselves even to get tired and have accidents.

It’s like in Shawshank. First you can’t stand the bars, then you get used to them, then you can’t live without them.

After 50+ years of structured work people forget how to be in charge of themselves.


I think deliberately inducing a degree of what the psychologists call learned helplessness is a part of it. If you continually stress out a rat randomly in ways out of his control, the rat will fail to take advantage of escape opportunities. It will helplessly sit there and put up with the random shocks (or whatever) even when the door is open.

These firms absolutely want the employees stressed out to a degree that contemplating escape from the cage seems like too much.


Even worse: high velocity work distractions, Teams, Slack, etc.

Multibillion dollar organisation with an essentially unlimited scope for bureaucratic work versus kid trying to move house at the weekend.

The “why did he do this to himself?” meme seems appropriate.

Also, yes. I’ve gotten better over the years at taking a breath and just doing it but it still sets me off. Employers exploit this in people by adding hurdles in expense systems. It’s an oft forgotten corporate dark pattern.

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