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??? (?) and ???? (?) is probably my favorite example. Good bless furigana. ??? (??) and ???? (??) is sometimes fun as well.


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I can't think of any examples of the top of my head, but I have definitely seen this many times. One form it comes in is writing the meaning in kanji but then using an English word in Katakana as the Furigana for it. One example I can remember in that form, though it's not song lyrics, is "??????????" where ???? has the Furigana ????? (rail gun). Another form it takes is doing the same thing but using a different Japanese word instead of an English one.

There is just absolutely all sorts of fuckery in Japanese on a count of people playing with the language. It's a fun language to play around with.


Thanks for making me aware of the existence of furigana. Unique corners of language are a pet interest of mine and that was a fun rabbit hole to go down.

Some that I like:

???? (issekinichou ; literally: one stone, two birds ; I'll let you guess the meaning (yes, it's very close to an expression in English))

???? (jigoujitoku ; reap what you sow)

???? (jisakujien ; self-made self-staged ; for example, used for the act of creating a staged situation and then acting as if it were genuine)

???? (jimonjitou ; answering one's own question)

???? (jiboujiki ; self-abandonment)

???? (jigajisan ; singing one's own praises)

???? (jikyuujisoku ; self-sufficiency)

???? (jiyuujizai ; free/unrestricted)

(Yeah, I have a thing for the ???? ones)


(1) ??? (????, otonage) - maturity

(2) ??? (?????, daininki) - very popular


It's a pretty broad mechanism, also widely used in drama/anime/manga where you can basically stick any reading to any word as long as people accept it.

Traditional examples would be ?? (honki) -> ?? (maji), ???(kasiramoji) -> ?????(initial), ??(inga) -> ???(karma)

I remember a live stream where a comment with "????"(choudenjihou) was straight read into "railgun", as at this point the novel/manga/anime just established it as a popular reading.


?? is actually Jujutsu (or Juujutsu), while ?? is Jujutsu, ironically.

It's in Japanese, called ?????.

The other more high-flown Japanese one you see sometimes is ???, as in ?????

memorably rendered in bad fansubs as "eight million gods"


My favorite is Japanese sayoonara: "if it must be that way"

Random examples of 5-7-5 texts in Japanese I found on Twitter:

- ????????????(“Shipping calculated separately”)

- ??????????????(“shut up will bury you in mountain in Rokko”)

- ???????????(“infected individuals identified domestically”)

- ???????????????(“taking selfies in Yukata will get blamed”)

- ???????????????(“nuking compiler backend sections”)

- ????????????????(“Coala’s March(snack) is quite popular in Laos”)

So I think more than half of its value has to be with something inherent to Japanese(language)


My latest obsession is to decipher any Japanese text I encounter, so for anyone curious ????? reads as "Furippa" - Flipper.

I have not seen ?? before, where did you see it? It looks Chinese, and Japanese Wikipedia calls it "????????". I don't think most native speakers can read it!

?? for sure is common.


make/kati is another example, Meaning lose/win in Japanese.

To be more explicit, ??=nihon, ????=noir. As written "???"/"???" is basically like writing "nihonn"/"oir".

My best attempt at Japanese:

??????????????????????


I use it all the time, and wakatta or wakarimashita in Japanese, too.

If you're interested in what the other mentioned kanji with regularly-used non-standard forms mean, here are some rough definitions:

? - animal feed, bait

? - go back in time; go upstream

? - humble, modest

? - riddle, enigma

? - rice cake; mochi


Just from anime and j-pop I know that Japanese wordplay is off the scale crazy to follow along with, especially when they mix it up with English. When I read Japanese literature in English it is important to read the author's notes or else one can miss huge tracts of plot.

A simple example from pop culture would be the Miku Hatsune concerts "39 Giving Day" where '39' sounds like 'thank you' in English and they play 39 songs. In the credits for the MikuFlick iOS game it says at the end "39 for playing!". It's a simple example of what you mean, but j-pop is rife with this. Visual imagery too, the official video for Morning Misume's An Adolescent Boy is Crying Again on youtube has a fan's explanation of the imagery used, it's honestly a good read. (video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtboKJ4D8zg but can't find the comment among the train-wreck that is YT comments). Posting MM video links on HN, what have I become? cries


I find it funny that they used ???? (Noto-san) in the example text for Noto Sans. I wonder if that's a reference to ????? (Noto Mamiko)?
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