I know of at least 2 companies who will explicitly not hire ex-facebook engineers, with the rationale that anyone who would work for facebook is morally bankrupt, especially the more recent years.
They already are. We rarely hire former facebook engineers anymore. They cost too much, most of them have done very little interesting work and of the FAANG companies, they are by far the most entitled.
Agreed. If you can get hired as an engineer at FB, you can get hired as an engineer at a less shitty company.
If FB started hiring unskilled laborers and promised to train them up to be a software dev, I could see this argument having some weight. But, AFAIK, they don’t.
So I'm an engineer at my org. I'd never want to work for Facebook. If I'm interviewing you then yes I will ask you why you chose to work there when by definition you had other options.
I like Facebook as an engineering organization, and was tempted when I was heavily recruited there. Problem is, many feel Facebook the social media company is making the world a worse place in many different ways, and their leadership had their head in the sand. Otherwise, I'd love to work there.
Facebook recruiters periodically contact me. I've considered interviewing with them in the past, but there's no way in hell I'd do it now. As far as I'm concerned, they produce a toxic product, and their sludge is infecting all of society in ways that no one fully understands.
I wonder how many other engineers feel similarly. It feels increasingly like having "Facebook" on your resume is a badge of shame. Sure, you can make good money working there, but you also have to be able to sleep at night.
Not sure if we disagree at all. I consider him not working for Facebook a good thing.
Good engineers should not work for bad companies. I know there are good engineers at Facebook, what I'm not sure about is that Facebook itself is good.
Recently there was a number of articles like [1], saying that a a lot of good engineers stays away from working for FB, having misgivings about its practices.
So maybe people who agree to do such things are a result of a (long) selection process.
Seems pretty unlikely that it would meaningfully stop engineers from finding work after Facebook. A lot of Arthur Andersen individuals were hired pretty easily after its dissolution following the Enron scandal.
Oh please! Facebook is considered total crap by almost every engineer i know. Nobody i know wants to work there. Seriously all these zukerberg ass kissers on HN are pathetic.
Is there? Is facebook really having a hard time hiring new engineers? Last time I checked, it still was super hard to get a job at facebook, implying there are a lot of people willing to work at facebook.
Unfortunately I think other companies would still be happy hiring ex FB developers. They still are ex FAANG, and they showed to give moral and principle the rear seat when it comes to revenue and business. Why wouldn't these folks be hireable?
I suspect there are an awful lot of very good engineering types who would never go and work for Facebook. No matter how much you paid them (well, let's say bounded at the upper end by a very, very large number).
Although (nearly?) everyone has their price, few people with _serious_ technical chops want to play on Facebook's side of the garden wall. I suspect Facebook worries about this.
Facebook's brand is tainted enough now that smart engineers don't want any of the bleedover into their personal brand that would come from working there.
How many engineers, in hiring positions, do you know that have a positive opinion of FB?
I don't really agree with this. I despise Facebook and happily retweeted a post a few weeks ago specifically aimed at helping FB engineers find work elsewhere.
I'd prefer to help good people get out of bad places.
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