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I just wanted to follow up here. Yes, people have been hospitalized. Would you care to revise your statement?

https://twitter.com/StatusCoup/status/1629530227146731521



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Oops, sorry for the mix-up! I can't speak to the hospitalisation numbers, but I'd be very surprised indeed if the situation there was similar.

> (Note: Hospitalization may or may not have been due to COVID-19.)

I would like to know how many of the 705 have recovered, how many are still ill, and how many were admitted to hospital.

If 42 were critical, that doesn't necessarily mean they were the only ones who needed hospital treatment.


Original comment is talking about deaths, there are many, many more hospitalizations.

Saw this tweet. Another interesting metric: Hospitalizations

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1242208166202478593...


That is the reason why I posted that but if you read this specific one really closely it actually turns out this exact data point really is about people being in hospital for a condition associated with COVID.

Of course the conditions are pretty vague but it’s not people who were in a car crash.


The numbers, according to the article, are people checked in the hospital in severe condition.

Not the other way around


> Hospitalizes them, sure.

Re-read the citation, it's specifically looking at hospitalization.


They were yet to be diagnosed when they went into hospital.

Your comment is bordering on desperation to downplay COVID and i really really think the admins of this site should crack down on users like yourself blatantly and desperately trying to misrepresent a statistic as simple and obvious as that in that way.


They were yet to be diagnosed when they went into hospital.

That’s my point. They are hospitalized (had a condition that required admission), but not because of Covid.


Reference: "Preliminary data submitted by 113 hospitals over the last three days show most new admissions have mostly been staying home; they're predominantly from the downstate area (57 percent NYC, 18 percent Long Island) and people of color. Most of them are older and non-essential employees; 66 percent were admitted from their own residences.

Of the new New York City hospitalizations, 90 percent have not been traveling by car service, personal automobile, mass transit or even walking around. If they've been working, they've been doing it from home and apparently weren't going out much, the governor said."

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/subway-shutdown-...


“four ended up in the hospital needing oxygen or intensive care to survive their ordeal.”

This fact seems a tad more important than the fact that two have died, because that level of intensive medical care doesn’t scale to thousands of victims

But even with all that considered this sounds like a statistical glitch, not an event of significance


https://www.miamidade.gov/information/library/2021-12-27-cov...

In the past 7 days, hospitalizations rose by 107% in Florida, matching the rate of COVID19 growth from a week or two ago.

We're _already_ seeing the massive increase in hospitalization numbers in Florida. Its a time-delayed compared to case-counts, but its clearly hitting Florida now. What do you think will happen in the next week (when last week had +300% case count) ??

There was a blip in the data for Christmas / Christmas Eve (I dunno if that's because fewer people were working, or if fewer people decided to go into the hospital). But otherwise, the trajectory and hospital usage number-trend is pretty clear and evident already.


Thankfully everyone is reporting in safe from what I've seen on facebook (I grew up in the area). As mentioned elsewhere, my biggest concern is those evacuated from the hospital into 100 degree weather.

> couldn’t avoid a brush fire that left the hospital system overwhelmed

Agree with most of what you say. However, the hospitals were not overwhelmed as evidenced by USNS Comfort leaving NYC after only treating 182 patients [1]. Similarly, Javits center temporary hospital had many spare beds [2]. The governor thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed which is a very different thing.

People that should have used the spare hospital beds and seen doctors didn't due to the lockdown, which makes this fact extra relevant. An overwhelming percentage of people that died from coronavirus in NYC had one or more other serious health conditions. Question is how many people that was classified as also having covid died of other underlying conditions and did not seek proper medical care due to fear of coronavirus.

[1] https://news.usni.org/2020/04/27/hospital-ship-comfort-ends-...

[2] https://abc7ny.com/javits-center-usns-comfort-coronavirus-ny...


If they were hospitalized with symptoms consistent with COVID - is very relevant, I agree.

But that’s not what this story is about. It’s just about being hospitalized, which means nothing, without any additional data. It’s like running a story that Obama visited Kenya, when birth conspiracy was rampant. It’s something you’d expect from CNN/Foxnews, but not from a reputable journalist organization.


Thank you, even though I am honestly not sure if I can trust a Twitter thread. For instance, this article [1] (in Italian) says that "up until now [yesterday], no patient who could have benefited from intensive care has been excluded". BUT it also says Lombardy might be headed that way if the virus keeps spreading at this rate.

Just to be clear, I do not want to downplay what is happening in any way. But I feel it is better if we stick to verifiable info.

[1] https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2020/03/10/coronavirus-il-c...


> But it's still misleading, because a lot of these hospitalizations are going to ERs for testing.

I don't think this is correct. Going to the ER is not the same as being admitted to the hospital. From everything I've read, ER visits are not counted as hospitalizations anywhere.


I meant if they had bad enough symptoms to be hospitalized. Which isn't as high of a percent, but still quite a few people will need to be hospitalized to recover.
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