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The edits are so dumb my conspiracy theorist brain wonders if they are doing this to pump sales. They are certainly getting headlines. Headlines mean money!

I sometimes look at left-leaning websites (other than HN) to get a broader view of the world, and the support for the bowdlerization of Dahl seems near 100 percent among our more righteous, liberal, blue-stockinged thinkers.

Example: https://www.metafilter.com/198336/Dont-gobblefunk-around-wit...



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I think that's exactly what's happening. A bunch of conservative bloggers probably got together to promote the link really aggressively.

The site favors leftist rags, not really surprising.

I don't think it's intentional in any respect, rather I'd wager it's more of a bug in Knowledge Graph or the search algorithm or something similar.

Even if it was intentional, Breitbart is a right-wing news outlet and so their headline would be expected to be tongue-in-cheek anyway.


Whoa man, someone is posting a website with a conservative bias to HN? Heckterino! Bring ze downvotes!

How about some actual criticism of the text in the article itself?


Submitter might link to a mainstream site like the NY Post whose article says pretty much the same.

https://nypost.com/2021/07/16/wikipedia-co-founder-says-site...


This is why I reflexively flag any articles I see from it on the front page. I tried taking the site seriously a few times and worked through all the assertions, but I came to the same conclusion you did. They have a certain way, and that way makes them not worth engaging with.

The way is too consistent to not have someone behind it carefully selecting writers and submissions. I think the writers think they're saying worthwhile things, and I think whoever's editing them is exploiting their good intentions.

It reminds me of how Gawker would exploit well-intentioned but inexperienced writers to drive ad impressions with poorly-argued positions on social justice. The writers didn't know they were dupes, and some of the editors probably didn't, but someone up the chain knew what was going on.


The real goal of this post is clear about half way down the page, de-funding disinformation from right-wing sources. My guess is that the group of website that they call out as problematic are actually great for getting ad viewers (older, non-tech savvy, gullible) that don't click skip. I would be less suspicious that this was a submarine article if the sites called out were roughly balanced left-right (by US standards, which are a bit different ;-).


Lately I've seen HN people linking to sites like Newswars (which is infowars rebranded, it seems) and whatnot.

> It's not in the same OMGWTF category as newsmax or OAN despite what some HN people will tell you.

Drudge has a history chock full of conspiracy theories, retractions and dirty-deletes. All of which center around attacking liberal politicians or causes to "own" or "gotcha" them.

Seriously, read the list that includes Obama birther conspiracies, Las Vegas shooting conspiracies, "immigrants setting wildfires" conspiracies (from Breitbart), and perpetuating hoaxes like "black man attacked McCain campaign staffer!": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drudge_Report


Articles like these make me wish that HN had a black-list of sites that only publish partisan politicized crap journalism (regardless of actual brand of ideology preached).

If they make a conscious decision to push one-way propaganda, they should not be linked to in polite company.


It’s almost like there’s a conspiracy theory to censor information and manipulate public discourse. Hmmm...

The current centralized structure of the web is broken. Any person who believes in classical liberalism should find this disgusting.


> This is weird-ass reasoning

But it's on reason.com! It's right in the name!

Jokes aside, almost every time I see a politically-wacky headline on HN it comes from this website. "If you have to say it", etc.


The site probably doesn't control the ads that appear, and such an ideological slant doesn't look evident looking at the titles of their other articles.

The first bit is bang-on.


Warning, link is to a right wing propaganda website.

I think maybe you don't see the problem in citing a bunch of heavily left publications saying a heavily right publication is fake news.

Snopes is cool, though.


Obviously this website is rigged for the liberal agenda

Thanks for this - that's exactly what I was hoping to find when I clicked into this.

While I didn't find a whole lot of the content I had intended, I think what I did find was interesting, none-the-less. The general opinion here seems to be "news sources suck[0]", especially if it has anything to do with politics/politics-masquerading-as-economics[1]. And community-driven sites tend to become dominated by the fringe of one political persuasion or another. HN does a good job, here, though a look at "new" yields a few headlines who's content can be summarized as "Your politician iz teh satan11", they rarely bubble up, and the ones that do -- even the ones that (headline-wise) I'd probably never click through in another context, I end up appreciating more often than not.

[0] I tend to agree with this and blame much but not all on the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-ge...

[1] Replace "economics" with anything else. HN's policy against political-related posts aside, I think this community tends toward skepticism and a lot of political is facts/truth twisted to fit an agenda/bias (intentional or not).


1. Snopes is a well known leftist hotbed and anything they print should be taken with a grain of salt as it's not unbiased.

They are caught up in a legal dispute that is still carrying on.

Linking something to them is no better than a fortune cookie.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-dai...


They are constantly sharing fake news that confirms their bias. http://www.bagsforsaleok.com/designer-handbags.html
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