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That's a weird comparison. IMO most newspapers fall under "ads" as well.

Political ads.



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Historically, (roughly), ads paid for the newspaper content and subscriptions (and newsstand sales) paid for the physical paper and distribution. But advertising rates have also gone way down (and classified ads, which were a huge money-maker, are basically gone) so it's not really comparable.

Advertisements in News+ are included like they are in print magazines, mainly.

I think newspapers mostly report the news. They also have things called opinion pages but those tend to be clearly marked as such and then there is this thing called advertising.

> you can read news papers without ads

Don't all those papers have ads in them?


But newspaper carried ads as well. It is where i live.

Newspapers have a lot less than 25 pages of content these days, but a lot more ads.

There is an issue of semantics and nomenclature here. Essentially, the basic point is:

Journalism and advertising are both products (distinct as they are) being sold thru the same media, e.g. a newspaper or a 30-minute cable TV timeslot.


Pretty sure that most newspapers that charge for subscriptions also sell ads. Similarly with TV news channels.

It already is that way to some extent.

Not every newspaper has the same ad setup. Ads are added at printing and are still targeted to the best of the publishing companies ability.


That's not it.

Newspapers used to have a monopoly on advertising, at least in the local area. Once they lost their monopoly they were no longer financially viable.


At many of these papers, advertising is the greater source of revenue than subscriptions.

> It's the original "ad supported" business.

No, it's not. Ad-supported newspapers are older than postal mail being largely advertising subsidizing other mail. Older than the US Post Office (and the US, even in North America), too.


Right, but ads only pay for journalism insofar as newspapers sell, and papers only sell insofar as readers are interested in buying.

I'm not sure the laws governing those two scenarios are different... are they?

How much liability does a print newspaper have for its ad content?


That's like arguing that newspapers are not a market, because it makes money from ads.

what on earth are you talking about? newspapers have existed to control the narrative since inception. look at how they’ve been used, and listen to the lead editors talk about using their influence.

it’s a slightly less targeted ad, sure, but my dad only reads conservative papers, and they don’t seem to be written with a common perspective


Both of which are commercial-supported and transient. Print news is a different beast.

Ads - especially classified ads - paid for newspapers.

It used to be normal in the news paper industry to have a hard dividing line between the "news" and "advertising" departments for this very reason. There was always a conflict of interest possible when newspapers reported on the companies placing ads with them. I'm not sure how true this is any more.
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