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It's fairly trivial to define. You know all those things that you don't like? The bad things, that all the stupid people do without thinking, unlike you? That's post-modernist neo-marxist ideology.


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Not sure that the dominant ideology around here is "Marxist post-modernist". More like coastal urban shitlib. Also, isn't Marxist post-modernism an oxymoron?

>> post-modernist neo-marxist

What does that mean? It seems like a contradiction in terms. How could you have someone who rejects modernist ideology but promotes a modernist ideology?


> post-modernism, a direct offshoot of Marxism

The communists manifesto says

"Our epoch, the epoch of the bourgeoisie, possesses, however, this distinct feature: it has simplified class antagonisms. Society as a whole is more and more splitting up into two great hostile camps, into two great classes directly facing each other — Bourgeoisie and Proletariat."

This grand narrative and ideology spoken with objective certainty with regards to binary oppositions, is the complete opposite of postmodernism.

Milton Friedman's works in a similar vein although on the other side are the opposite of postmodernism as well.


Welcome to post-modernity*. It's evil and communism in a progressive jacket.

Post-modernism is not related marxist economic theory it is an art movement that rejects the possibilty of a unified narratve, rather than the concept of "objective truth". Embracing absurdity is not anti-intellectual per se.

It's post-modern in the sense of being chronologically after (and a reaction to) the philosophical school of modernism. That's not to imply some great cosmic arc (in fact, post-modernism explicitly refutes such grand narratives - specifically those of Marx that turned out to be dismally incorrect when the subjugated working classes turned to fascism not communism in the 1930s).

E: I accidentally a word


That's pretty much the opposite of postmodernism actually is.

GP uses these terms in a straightforward fashion. Understanding is literally two google searches (or ChatGPT questions) away!

- "post-modernism" - as in rejection of the values of enlightenment; rejection of reason, and ultimately rejection of the idea that there exist solutions to problems that can be discovered by people cooperating in good faith;

- "neo-Marxist" - a softer take on Marxism, less about bloody revolutions, more about hearts and minds; figures the class struggle is a spent topic for now, so it tries to create new social divisions to keep people motivated.

Also, if you're to believe Wikipedia entry[0], a label adopted by a group of people trying to subvert mental health institutions so they breed revolutionaries instead of healing people. I wish I was making that up...

EDIT: I'll just quote that last bit verbatim, the whole subheading on Wiki as it looks right now:

  Neo-Marxist feminism
  
  Some portions of Marxist feminism have used the neo-Marxist label.[16][17] This
  school of thought believes that the means of knowledge, culture, and pedagogy
  are part of a privileged epistemology. Neo-Marxist feminism relies heavily on
  critical theory and seeks to apply those theories in psychotherapy as the means
  of political and cultural change. Teresa McDowell and Rhea Almeida use these
  theories in a therapy method called "liberation based healing," which, like many
  other forms of Marxism, uses sample bias in the many interrelated liberties in
  order to magnify the "critical consciousness" of the participants towards unrest
  of the status quo.[17][18][19][20]
--

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Marxism#Neo-Marxist_femini...


Marxist-Leninst academics are quite ferociously opposed to Postmodernists - postmodernism is completely incompatible with Marxist intellectual frameworks which are thoroughly modernist.

It's not a reasonable and realistic premise - it's word salad trying to scare.


That's essentially modernism (or at least, its economic side); there's a reason postmodernism is hot right now, and it's because modernism is both wrong and rubbish.

It's post-modernism only if you assume that human beings have no set, general psychological characteristics and are entirely the product of socialization. Otherwise it is pragmatism.

It’s a form of extreme subjectivism that is just not practically feasible in any society.

Postmodernism is truly nefarious.


I’ll be the first person to admit I have no idea what postmodernism actually means

It means it means there's no right or wrong way to do it, everything's subjective. Which is actually the exact opposite of the Python philosophy!


It's a common cliché from rightwing circles (initially I think the combination of the two was produced by Jordan Peterson). Not to be too mean, but you'll see a lot of the Ben Shapiro fan crowd snagging on to it because it sounds smart despite being mostly meaningless. It's a placeholder for terms like 'degeneracy' and 'cultural bolshevism' and other such social forces that might undermine the status quo.

There's a bit more nuance if you want to try to take the term at face value. DDG renders this, which seems reasonable https://areomagazine.com/2022/04/11/is-postmodernism-neo-mar...


I'm referring to modern far leftism, an offshoot from Marxism and post modernism.

> has the habit to confuse postmodernism with "neo Marxism" (itself a term reminiscent of the "cultural Marxism" conspiracy theory)

Because that is the most prominent application of postmodernism: to push forward neo-Marxist ideology.


Care to elaborate a bit on the Postmodernism part ?

Ironically that's postmodernism for you.

Postmodernism.
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