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anarchy79 · 2023-04-29 21:04:39

I am thinking this does more damage to their competitors than to themselves.

sirspacey | karma 1031 | avg karma 2.52 · | 2020-11-10 15:02:07

Sincerely curious - what competitors do you believe were harmed here?

dagw | karma 25328 | avg karma 2.79 · | 2015-09-25 06:08:44

they are doing enormous damage with their lock-in

Damage to whom? Damage to potential competitors? Sure, but that's fair game under antitrust laws.

Damage to consumers? That argument is a lot harder to make.

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dllthomas | karma 14749 | avg karma 1.38 · | 2014-02-23 03:38:37+00:00

But it will reduce their profits, as they have to face competition.

ThatPlayer | karma 1578 | avg karma 1.7 · | 2022-06-11 04:53:31

If they get to the point of hurting competition, why not?

Someone1234 | karma 47831 | avg karma 6.58 · | 2024-01-20 10:49:42

Seems like a nice way of killing a competitor's products.

advisedwang | karma 5933 | avg karma 4.44 · | 2020-10-30 15:38:24

That is correct, but in this case what is the competitor being impacted?

6510 | karma 1565 | avg karma 0.55 · | 2020-06-11 18:30:15+00:00

They are targeting their competitor.

shmerl | karma 12092 | avg karma 1.37 · | 2017-09-07 17:23:14

I hope it will cost them some market share. People should not tolerate this nonsense.

Siira | karma 804 | avg karma 0.96 · | 2022-03-05 16:30:42

These companies want the liability. That would kill all their nascent competitors for good.

jjcon | karma 2668 | avg karma 2.26 · | 2023-02-06 17:30:11

I would definitely agree - it is anti competitive behavior all around and will only make their antitrust woes worse in the coming years.

bidirectional | karma 1178 | avg karma 3.18 · | 2021-03-03 15:59:40+00:00

You also benefit from harming its competitors.

throwawayornot | karma 44 | avg karma 1.26 · | 2015-05-18 18:50:28+00:00

I'd argue that they are killing their competitors not customers

mentat | karma 2065 | avg karma 2.04 · | 2015-08-13 17:24:23

It's hurting their customers, not the markets.

palish | karma 6596 | avg karma 3.09 · | 2009-01-17 17:12:39+00:00

This would be an effective way to tarnish the reputation of a competitor.

oli5679 | karma 2602 | avg karma 4.18 · | 2016-10-22 19:28:38

Seems to be a negative response to this deal re competitive implications. Can someone outline their theory of harm? I do some work in competition economics but am not American and don't know a lot about either company?

hirundo | karma 15000 | avg karma 5.24 · | 2021-01-28 22:52:07

I expect a larger cost from violating the trust of their customers. They'll lose many and if they do grow, grow more slowly. It's an advantage to their competitors.

shmerl | karma 12092 | avg karma 1.37 · | 2020-07-31 22:46:50+00:00

It's also one of the most toxic and unhealthy for the industry. As you pointed out, they are proponents of extreme lock-in and anti-competitive behavior. And it's not good when such toxic company also has such pools of money. They can do too much damage.

noob_07 | karma 4 | avg karma 1.33 · | 2022-07-19 02:33:12

I don't really understand how this helps that company. This will probably make a lot more people stay really far away from the company.

izacus | karma 26220 | avg karma 4.38 · | 2016-04-29 07:12:18+00:00

Which means that they're using profits from an unrelated market to undercut and push out / destroy any competition in their storefront market. Not a good situation for future competition.