I haven't been able to resolve it. My Framework is basically a desktop with a (really weak) hinge. It's the only computer I've ever had that falls all the way open if you pick it up even partially open, and the only one that won't ever actually go to sleep.
I still use it a lot. I just don't ever unplug it for more than a couple hours.
FWIW my (Intel) MacBook does the same. Sometimes it just doesn't go to sleep when I close the lid and it's not clear why, so I have to listen for the fans. So dumb.
I mean there's a serious bug where Windows will not properly realize it needs to /stay asleep/ and will wake itself up in your bag, and sometimes stay on.
Linus did a whole video on it - you have to unplug your laptop, then close it, or risk a serious issue.
Just one example of hoops that Windows users become conditioned to.
I thought I was alone with that problem. Do you know what the culprit is? What keeps randomly waking up modern laptops?
It's so stupid, too. There is exactly one single case when I want my laptop to wake up with the lid closed: when I plug in the dock. Every single other case where it wakes up with the lid closed is a bug in my eyes.
Really? Everyone I know just closes their laptop. And then the fear of the dreaded sleep, has them walking around the office with them open all the time.
My wife’s new last year laptop had this problem - and it was pretty embarassing since I’d convinced her that a) she needed a new laptop and b) extolled that with this one she doesn’t need to shut it down every time - just close the lid!
“fixed” it by making it hibernate instead which kinda sucks.
It won't do Modern Standby properly, so it always kinda hibernates, ergo: Press Power button, make a coffee, wiggle mouse and click things once desktop appears so I know it's finally responsive. To shut down I just ignore it like the naughty boy it is until it sulks, tries to sleep, and finally falls into hibernation.
Gaming/VR PC:
Modern Standby works perfectly. Press power button, instantly awake, ready to go. Also leave it to sleep when I'm done.
Work PC:
It's a Surface Pro 7, as such it has a mind of its own. I approach it cautiously so as not to startle it, and treat it gently so it doesn't reboot when I click on stuff too fast.
In case it's not brutally obvious, these are Windows 10 PCs
It happens to me on Windows 10 if I close the laptop lid to lock the desktop and send it to sleep.
When I open it again, the desktop is accessible for a few seconds (sometimes long enough to launch programs) before the lock screen activates and I have to input my password. The workaround I use is to manually lock with Win+L before closing the lid.
Would certain go a long way to explain why waking my MBP up after going AFK involves an affair that requires me to undock it from my vertical stand, entering password, and awkwardly trying to place it back into the stand, reconnecting peripherals while slapping the BT keyboard endlessly so it doesn't go back to sleep after login.
Yeah, it seems to trick the mechanism that detects the lid is closed. It took me a while to discover why my work laptop would go to sleep as I was typing, when I had it stacked on top of my (closed) personal laptop.
Huh? These laptops don't open themselves up at the command of their BOFH tech guy. The mechanical latch would do nothing to prevent this. You still have to open up the laptop to use it, and the computer still has to detect that it's open so that it can 'wake' from 'sleep.'
I don't have a Framework, but I had this kind of problem with my Dell XP. Turns out there is a USB port that will drain the battery if anything is plugged in there - and this is even documented but not very visible in the docs. I had to move my device to a different port to alleviate this. Maybe something similar is going on here?
Yeah, you're not supposed to shut computers down anymore. You close the lid and it goes into hibernate. Or for a desktop, you walk away and it eventually goes into hibernate by itself. It's part of the commoditization of computing. You don't need to know how it works, you just use it to do what you want and it does everything else behind the scenes.
Lots of fun with those sensors. Some years ago, I think while I was migrating from an older laptop to a new one, the new one would randomly to to sleep. It took me a while to figure out why: Being really short on available desk space, I had stacked the new machine (lid open) atop the old one (lid closed). Of course that tricked the lid sensors into thinking the lid was down. I could kick myself …
I still use it a lot. I just don't ever unplug it for more than a couple hours.
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