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Honestly we need 10x the number of IRS folks to track all of these cheats down.


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On the bright side, we'll have 87,000 new IRS agents to catch these unwitting tax cheats.

This is why they want to hire 80k more IRS agents.

Based on what?

The IRS does catch cheating wealthy people, but their personnel for doing so has been reduced by ~30%. What do you suggest? Let them keep cheating?


I wonder if there's enough public information to do third party (citizen) audits?

Crowd fund some under employed accountants and geeks and sleuths to dig into some of the big boys.

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Is there some kind of bounty program exposing tax cheats? Like that small law group that's made millions whistleblowing big pharma.


Sounds like we have tax cheat on our hands

We have a whole section of the government dedicated to figuring out whether people are evading taxes and then pursuing them for it. It could use some more funding, but that’s the appropriate way to do it.

What are you going to add by having uninformed members of the public inspecting tax returns they don’t understand? Keep in mind there are people who turn down raises because they think being in a higher tax bracket will cause them to lose money. These are the geniuses you want to catch tax evaders?


How about the IRS focuses on the major tax cheats instead of shaking down the proles for loose change?

The game is rigged, use every opportunity you have to break the rules to get ahead because the people who lord over us definitely are.


The ones that commit tax fraud

The IRS loves to go after tax fraud. Which is ultimately what this would be.

There are people getting away with tax fraud all the time.

This is great (and thanks!), but if congress really cared about this stuff, they would have big teams at the IRS working on tracing sophisticated money laundering. As it is, those teams are underfunded, headed by revolving doors of people, and threatened whenever they do something bigcos don't like.

They should just follow the Scientology path of suing the IRS like 24k times and hiring PIs to follow around IRS workers :)

How about instead of fining them, we just create a free tax filing website at the IRS to spite them? $141MM is just the cost of doing business, and that's ridiculous.

There is no pot of gold by going after rich tax cheats. You get some headlines, but even if you seized all the wealth of Bill Gates and Elon Musk you’d fund the government (at best) for a few months.

You need to increase taxes broadly on the vast middle and lower classes to truly make a difference. It’s usually done in backhanded ways at this scale, like increasing the retirement age or the payroll tax. Direct income taxes are extremely unpopular for the people they impact, so broadly doing this is a non starter, it only works as a class warfare move (“no one under 400k income is impacted!”).

So the republicans are posturing that they will decrease funding but it won’t happen. If the IRS starts mass auditing it will be the lower and middle classes. The EITC is rife with fraud as is small business and eBay / Etsy hustlers. You audit someone and garnish their wages and they will be a lifelong hater of the IRS and all associated with them. It’s a long game.


What we need is an open, automated, auditable system where the rules are transparent. The IRS is not there to cheat you out of money, they have no incentive to do so (they don't get bonuses for that.)

On the other hand, with our present adversarial system there are a variety of private businesses that do get money when the IRS makes mistakes.


That figure covers a lot of tax fraud identity verification doesn't solve. The actual figures are around $25bn a year of stopped fraudulent refunds, at a cost of a few thousand employees [1].

[1] https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-news/FS-14-01.pdf


There are markers of tax fraud here.

It's an IRS sting operation.

The IRS itself are thieves and corrupt officials.
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