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Seriously, you really aren't aware of the association of Lambda with gay rights? Are you a native English speaker or an American? It's easy to google, widely known, and well documented. I'm glad for the opportunity to educate you!

I've also heard conservatives try to implausibly deny they ever heard of such a thing as the "gay lisp", too, but that ignorance-based excuse doesn't hold any water, either.

But I suppose there are some home-schooled Fred Flintstone conservatives living under a rock in Bedrock (or Florida or Texas) who have carefully cultivated their ignorance about gay history and culture, and who have never met any gay people (or are so openly homophobic that most gay people refuse to come out to them out of fear), and that their deep ignorance untainted by the facts is part of the basis for their rampant homophobia and terrified moral panic.

Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_Legal

>The Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund, better known as Lambda Legal, is an American civil rights organization that focuses on lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) communities as well as people living with HIV/AIDS (PWAs) through impact litigation, societal education, and public policy work.

LGBT Symbols: Lambda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_symbols#Lambda

>Lambda: In 1970, graphic designer Tom Doerr selected the lower-case Greek letter lambda (?) to be the symbol of the New York chapter of the Gay Activists Alliance.[5][6] The alliance's literature states that Doerr chose the symbol specifically for its denotative meaning in the context of chemistry and physics: "a complete exchange of energy–that moment or span of time witness to absolute activity".[5]

>The lambda became associated with Gay Liberation,[7][8] and in December 1974, it was officially declared the international symbol for gay and lesbian rights by the International Gay Rights Congress in Edinburgh, Scotland.[9] The gay rights organization Lambda Legal and the American Lambda Literary Foundation derive their names from this symbol.

Lambda as a symbol of gay/lesbian rights:

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/scotts/ftp/bulgarians/lam...

>The Encyclopedia of Homosexuality has the following entry on Lambda:

>In the early 1970s, in the wake of the Stonewall Rebellion, New York City's Gay Activists Alliance selected the Greek letter lambda, which member Tom Doerr suggested from its scientific use to designate kinetic potential, as its emblem. (Curiously, in some ancient Greek graffiti the capital lambda appears with the meaning fellate, representing the first letter of either lambazein or laikazein.) Because of its militant associations, the lambda symbol has spread throughout the world. It sometimes appears in the form of an amulet hung round the neck as a subtle sign of recognition which can pass among unknowing heterosexuals as a mere ornament. Such emblems may reflect a tendency among homosexuals toward tribalization as a distinct segment of society, one conceived as a quasi-ethnic group.

>In More Man Than You'll Ever Be by Joseph P. Goodwin (Indiana University Press:Bloomington, 1989) on page 26, Goodwin writes:

>The lowercase Greek letter lambda carries several meanings. First of all, it represents scales, and thus balance. The Greeks considered balance to be the constant adjustment necessary to keep opposing forces from overcoming each other. The hook at the bottom of the right leg of the lambda represents the action required to reach and maintain a balance. To the Spartans, the lambda meant unity. They felt that society should never infringe on anyone's individuality and freedom. The Romans adopted the letter to represent "the light of knowledge shed into the darkness of ignorance." Finally, in physics the symbol designates and energy change. Thus the lambda, with all its meanings, is an especially apt symbol for the gay liberation movement, which energetically seeks a balance in society and which strives through enlightenment to secure equal rights for homosexual people.

Sterling Silver Lambda Gay Pride Symbol Charm:

https://www.amazon.com/Sterling-Silver-Lambda-Pride-Symbol/d...

And then of course there's the purple (another classic gay color) cover of Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, with the two magic dudes dressed in drag with a lambda symbol floating between them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_and_Interpretation_o...



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    > With the new case, “we are witness yet again to the unrelenting anti-LGBTQ
    > crusade being waged by self-described Christian fundamentalist legal groups
    > aiming to chip away at the hard-won gains of LGBTQ people by carving out swaths
    > of territory where discrimination can flourish,” said Jennifer C. Pizer, a
    > senior counsel at Lambda.
It's hard for me to understand how someone doesn't see conservative Christians are on the defensive in these cases.

LGBT groups are getting massive support from governments, NGOs, corporations, etc. Acceptance is being promoted in virtually every media and you are generally considered an evil person for holding views about homosexuality that would have been normal 30 years ago.

Conservative Christians on the other hand are just praying their livelihood won't be the target of activists today.


Since the conservative movement as a whole has been generally moving to deny LGBTQ people the right to marry (see: attempts to overturn Obergefell in conservative states), the right to serve in the military (see: transgender military ban) and the right to not be discriminated against (see: masterpiece cakeshop).

I'm not going to deny that there are LGBT conservatives. But the fact is that conservative politicians as a whole demonize LGBTQ people and have attempted multiple times to censor them [1] or bar them from aid.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19976398


It was invented by conservatives trying badly to make jokes about LGBT+ acceptance.

Ironically, I'm a butch lesbian who came out in the 90s, so I'm well aware.

One of my less popular opinions in the queer community is that I AM a free speech absolutist (or close to it), even if it does result in some discrimination. (Even against me.) Of course we should minimize and work to eliminate discrimination in society, but that isn't the only value we have, and unfortunately social policies are always a case of trade-offs.

I also prefer to let the homophobes be open about it so a.) I know what they're saying and can undermine it and b.) so I know who to avoid. All pushing it underground does is make me nervous that everybody's a closet homophobe and means I can't change anybody's mind. (Which I have done on multiple occasions).


They hate and advocate against the rights of homosexuals even though Peter Thiel is gay. There’s no point in trying to understand their “logic”, it’s just dumb and cringe.

LOL OK. If anything this kind of frivolous, nonsensical argument you're proffering here undermines the rights of the LGBTQ community, allowing conservatives to easily dismiss their actual meaningful concerns as liberal hogwash.

So, please, keep setting back the cause of minorities and those discriminated against by making pronouns the hill on which to die on.

Way to fight for the oppressed! If we had 10,000x of you maybe all rights for the discriminated would be repealed, no?


The Republican platform literally calls for conversion therapy for gay children, the overturning of nationwide gay marriage, rolling back civil rights protections for lgbt people, forcing transgendered people to use different bathrooms, and discouraging gay parents from adopting -- one token gay guy on stage doesn't change any of that.

It's not just liberals that think Republicans are homophobic, its gay people and Republicans too. Many in the party are proudly so. There's a reason their support from there lgbt population is ~0% (likewise with black, Hispanic, and Asian people as well).


You've just described an anti-LGBT organization while claiming it is not

America’s intentional disregard of the AIDS epidemic killed more LGBTQ+ folks than Al Qaeda ever could. It’s not 1:1 with education, but the current sweep of abortion legislation is an incredible act of violence towards women if you’ve followed the consequences of those laws.

This isn’t a defense of UBL, I’m just pointing out that so much of this conversation is a matter of your ideology. If you think the only harm of the religious right in this country is simply a matter of tolerating their speech, then count yourself lucky to not be among or close to their victims.


Thank you. Even as a child, maybe because Im an immigrant and learned English in grade school, I was annoyed by the term homophobic. I remember saying a "joke" back around middle school days that I'm not afraid of gay people, I just don't like them.

As an adult now, I don't really care, but just like Ive grown to dislike people that sleep around casually (even though I was one of them from 18-35), I also don't really like the idea of gay hookup culture. Since that seems a lot more popular in the male gay community (I don't know about women), I also generalize that I don't like the popular gay culture either. If liberals/leftists can talk constantly how they don't like trump supporters or conservatives, and even talk down their intelligence levels, I don't see why I'm not allowed to not like someone who believes and does things I don't like.

Calling people like me homophobic doesn't really resonate to me and basically makes me ignore anything beyond that.


Since noone is explaining it to you honestly, I'll tell you.

By implying that the LGBT interests are a campaign to be bought, or convinced by, or tricked into, you are showing a complete lack of understanding of the true reasons why people in the tech industry (who tend to be socially progressive) find the idea of fighting against gay marriage (which is what Brendan Eich did) completely appalling. You are also revealing yourself as an anti-progressive dinosaur who is on the wrong side of history when it comes to LGBT human rights.


Pretty sure I have a good grip on what the ACLU stands for and that is mainly equal protection under the law.

If stepping on lgbtq rights becomes convenient for Trump he will do it in a heartbeat, but right now he finds it more useful to demonize Muslims, immigrants, and people of color.

Speaking as a bisexual man myself deciding it's not worth the effort to attack me right now is not the same as being pro LGBTQ rights. Obama is the only president we have to thank for those protections Trump didn't do anything.

This is a pattern with him over and over. Credit taking for things others have _clearly_ done and it's repulsive.

And besides I don't know many LGBTQ people who don't consider an attack on any vulnerable minority an attack on us all. Hell gay immigrants have had loads of experience with cruel treatment by the us government. We're well aware of what it's like to have our families ripped apart with a deportation.


I'm no great fan of conservative politics, but this is just disinformation. There is no legislation that bans teaching "gay people exist".

“Conservative” is not a protected class which faces generalized discrimination like gay people do

Title is misleading. It is lobbying against Anti-LGBTQ laws

You aren't aware that LGBTQ+ advocacy groups are opposed to some religious groups? And that their their opposition is because of the religious beliefs? This is not a secret.

You appear to be an apologist for an insanely homophobic organisation, so I don't know how much help you'd get from anyone correcting you.

It is unfortunate that you are so willing to consume as 'politics' whatever topic political strategists have decided to include in their party's talking points.

It is fortunate that said political strategists chose LGBT rights and not, say, the legality of JavaScript. Because then your Google search would have been a moot point entirely, JS having been made "political".


If you think my point is that gay rights is like Communism, you've either missed my point or are trying to derail the conversation.

I specifically chose support of a communist group (or being gay) in the 50s. Being sympathetic to or being a member of an unpopular group in this case isn't as easy as observing somebody's skin color. It's not about separate water fountains, schools and bus seats, which are all physical manifestations of bigotry.

By distancing themselves from Eich, Mozilla demonstrated that they were more interested in siding with what was popular rather than affirming any interest in real diversity: diversity of thought.

Because isn't that what the diversity movement is supposed to be all about?

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