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Well, we've got a good start with cameras installed in the vast majority of commercial toilets and urinals. It's not a huge leap to do more.


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NO WHERE TO HIDE: Bathrooms are used for illegal activities. Let's put cameras in each of them.

Right. Also, my wife and I have a little game of sharing about public restrooms that we encounter. Generally, the men's rooms are far more trashed than the women's rooms. But how many establishments have surveillance cameras in their men's rooms? Not many, I suspect.

That's a good point. At the same time I'm not sure what level of privacy people expect in a public bathroom. Anything you don't want someone seeing should be done within a stall. At best I would consider a public restroom as having increased privacy, but by no means being private.

I understand that's probably a hard sell though, as people have some idea that it's verboten to record in the open space of a public restroom (it's definitely frowned upon, but I think police cameras are a good exception to have, especially if they need to enter the restroom to perform their jobs because that's where a disturbance is), so whatever gets more camera use in the end I'm on board with, from a practical standpoint.


without cameras in the stalls the uncomfortable toilets will be vandalized and intentionally broken until they are replaced

It's nice that Microsoft installed a restroom. Definitely stopped people shitting in the corner.

My main problem are the cameras in the stalls.


yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. let's start slowly, only requiring a camera in the living room. then some time later, let's seek out incidents that had occurred in bathrooms, run them in the news every week to prime the masses, then they'll ask us themselves to mandate cameras in all bathrooms as well.

all detractors will be branded as pedophiles, of course


Maybe a robot operater can clean multiple restrooms at once.

> Still, I don’t think that people would be happy with a camera operated robot sniffing around their restrooms. ;)

I wouldn't probably, but if it means not having to clean their toilet, I think that many people would be happy with the tradeoff. Restrooms in public spaces wouldn't be an issue too.


> Imagine using a public urinal and you can watch an LCD screen while taking care of business.

Paper ads at the urinal are already common in some countries, because advertisers know that you have no choice but to look straight ahead. Now that you mention it, it is surprising that LCDs haven't been installed yet.


Your parenthetical point IS the point. I can see people in a washroom at the urinals but there's obvious reasons I can't record it.

You can't put cameras to toilets, you can't prevent semeone from using a toilet, and you can't search someone's pants.

Unless they're going to start installing urinals in ladies' bathrooms I'm not sure I see the point.

I didnt see anything in the article about how they handle privacy when you're actually using the toilets. How will they accomplish this part?

But... in even the 'best' situations, half the urinals are going unused! I wonder if putting up a small wall between each urinal would be a good idea?

Install a urinal nearby?

I mean those commercial toilets are what you'll find in a lot of office environments, schools, stores, etc etc. And it's the time when you're likely present in a room for someone else's flush. And, you also have no idea of who's using it. In a household, one will probably have an okay sense if someone else is sick (eg flu).

I'm torn on this one. One the one hand I would love that extra privacy.

On the other, I really value knowing if someone is in the stall next to me and how many people are in the bathroom. If the stalls extend to the ground how am I supposed to scan for legs? Someone could be hiding in there waiting to frighten me! I cannot use the bathroom until everyone has left it. Just how am I supposed to verify that some quick-footed coworker hasn't made their way in during someone's loud flush?

I cannot stomach this game of chance.


> At the same time I'm not sure what level of privacy people expect in a public bathroom. Anything you don't want someone seeing should be done within a stall.

If a man at a baseball game went into the restroom and up to the trough holding a smartphone that was clearly recording, he would undoubtedly find trouble. People expect not to be recorded in the bathroom.


The most practical way to prevent detection (if you're that worried) is to do your business in toilets that are in some way public. Your school, your job, the train station (if it has regularly cleaned toilets), etc.

It is a nice idea. Personally I would have no use for this device, everyone poops. everyone gets constipated and everyone gets diahorrea (hopefully not at once). Everyone makes noise.

Let us just all agree that shit happens and we can all collectively be embarrassed.

Anyway a much harder but better privacy device would be one that can combat hidden cameras in bathrooms.

Cheera

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