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That comment is misinformation. Moderating your website, whether through volunteers or paid moderators, does not change your liability under Section 230.

Pro tip: if you ever see a comment about Section 230 using the terms "publisher"/"platform", there's a 99.9% chance it is wrong and repeating one of several common misconceptions.



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> I thought there was with Section 230

You were misinformed.

https://www.techdirt.com/2020/06/23/hello-youve-been-referre...





> showing the maintainers as douchebags

That's over the line. Please edit such name-calling out of your comments here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html



Of course the sentence is harmless in itself. But given that the commenter was repeatedly expressing skepticism about the bona fides of the project (perhaps accurately—that's a separate issue), my guess is that it was meant that way, and if so, that's against the rules.

Moderation is guesswork. Inevitably we guess wrong sometimes, and in such cases are happy to apologize and fix the mistakes. But not making any such guesses isn't an option, since then people could get away with anything as long as they phrased it ambiguously.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...


>Right, I have wrote that in my first comment

My mistake.

>I know technical reasons are still possible...

It could be as simple as a penalty for breaking one of their webmaster guidelines.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEyFH-a-XoQ

> It's incredibly Kafka-eqsue that you get banned for a supposed violation that you're supposed to appeal

"You must understand, all problems are [user]'s own. If you only made certain to properly follow proper protocols, no such problems would exist!"

> but you don't know what you're being accused of doing.

"If there is a problem, fill out complaint form, and place it in an envelope addressed to the name of the hospital in which you were born."

# The Onion wasn't supposed be a prescient view of our future.


"It has absolutely nothing to do with content; ... it is part of a (large) IP range temporarily blocked to curb a DoS attack." http://vi.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/sackm/til_comcast_is_act...

https://openbazaar.org/features/

> It’s important to choose a moderator that is trustworthy for both parties on a decentralized network so make sure to join the OpenBazaar discussion communities and learn How To Choose a Good Moderator.

I don't want to learn "How To Choose a Good Moderator." I'd like to have someone with deep pockets that I can sue for damages if they don't keep their guarantees, like Visa.


> because they can ban you

Anyone can ban you, even your hosting company. In practice banning is pretty rare.

> I might as well just use Disqus or Facebook comments that I can embed on the site

And you will contribute to unethical tracking practices even if your users are not logged in to Facebook or Disqus[1].

[1] https://replyable.com/2017/03/disqus-is-your-data-worth-trad...


https://nitter.net/natfriedman/status/1585399067906932736

But no need to click, the entirely of the content (a bad HN comment) is in the title. No evidence or argument.

Wow, if only the owners and execs could realize this $100B idea to cut costs.


https://medium.com/humane-tech/against-don-t-read-the-commen...

"We’ve made a habit out of telling people not to read the comments online. But what started as a cynical in-joke has become a bad habit, and an excuse for enabling abuse across the web."

Just pointing out that while comments are terrible, it's Huffington Post that enables them to happen unchecked.


> Wow, does the top comment always have to be cynical?

Middlebrow dismissals are a hacker news staple.

http://www.byrnehobart.com/blog/why-are-middlebrow-dismissal...


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> You will never be able to code email templates and that just shows how clueless you are

Totally not ok on HN. Please follow the rules and comment civilly or not at all.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


> But while my request is serious and legally binding, [...]

Posting a comment on HN is somehow legally binding for a third party website whose operator likely never even heard of HN? Or what are you trying to say?


> this has yet to be enforced

You are misinformed.

https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

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