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> What does Amazon have a monopoly on?

Audiobooks.

https://doctorow.medium.com/why-none-of-my-books-are-availab...



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> One trick about “reading” (listening) to a good chunk of books has been Audible, to retain the content I’m listening to on my commutes and on the go I take a lot of notes.

While I share your enthusiasm about audiobooks, I encourage you to leave Audible behind:

- Audible is heavy on DRM, for no particular reason except for platform lockin and control. There are plenty of DRM free alternatives e.g. https://audiobookstore.com/ or https://www.downpour.com/ . To this day Audible doesn't sell Little Brother by Cory Doctorow, because they insist on adding DRM (which the author doesn't permit – he has strong principles regarding digital freedom).

- Audible, like Amazon, is becoming too much of a monopoly, which in general harms the product/user (remember IE6?). You don't even have to look for alternatives because of lofty principles, but just for your selfish interests to have a prospering alternative at hand, when Audible/Amazon screws you over.


> I get zero books from the Kindle store because of DRM

This is an option up to the author.

https://i.imgur.com/J8oBLl2.png


> Why aren't more companies coming into this space if it's so lucrative?

https://www.nyuengelberg.org/outputs/the-anti-ownership-eboo...

The publishers and libraries end up trapping themselves with DRM and other requirements that make it hard for other platforms to come in.


> it's pretty clear that a list like this is going to underrepresent books where an amazon link is less likely

But the list was explicitly generated from Amazon links... wasn't that always going to be the case?


> I get most of the books I read from the public library.

Best Buy will no longer be selling physical DVDs soon. What happens if publishers stop selling paper books and only sell licenses for ebooks?

Edit: https://time.com/6266147/internet-archive-copyright-infringe...


> Amazon publishes ebooks designed to attack your freedom (PDF[1] or html[2]).

This is real. There is something wrong with the way Amazon deals with ebooks, and it is sad to see people backing it up.

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[1]: http://stallman.org/articles/ebooks.pdf

[2]: http://gnu.org/philosophy/the-danger-of-ebooks.html


>My response is to avoid buying ebooks from Amazon if possible.

Why? Just because of DRM?


> Without DRM e-readers e-books would never exists

That is a strawman. Three are certsinly booksellers who never went near DRM and argue strongly against DRM.

Exempel: http://www.baenebooks.com


> How the fuck is that any different than my torrenting the epub and reading it on my iPad?

In England authors get a (tiny) fee when their books are borrowed from a library.

Is that not the case in the US?

https://www.plr.uk.com/


> there's no way to check out an ebook from a library in a way that doesn't involve Amazon

Isn't this what Libby - https://libbyapp.com/ - does?


> What am I missing?

Amazon can — and have — reach into your Kindle and delete books you have there (notably, they did this to 1984, proving that real life can be ironic).

You cannot lend one Kindle book to someone else, without lending the entire Kindle.

Your phone, computer and TV run binary code which can do literally anything (say, logging your passwords and transmitting them in unused protocol headers), which you are not permitted to remove or modify, in the name of DRM and similar user-restricting technologies.


>are on their way to abolishing book ownership outright.

This is hyperbolic. There has been a resurgence in small bookstores, and Amazon sells quite a few physical books themselves.


> why would you buy an audiobook when there is a text version available?

Someone gives it to you.

You build up a large collection and then go deaf.


> You’re criticizing the author for not making the ebook freely available?

Not at all.

> You only buy books for which you can obtain the ebook for free?

Yes, I do.


> For that one, it's mandated by publishers.

I believe the publishers want DRM. I'm not sure they want DRM that effectively locks in their readers to the Amazon ecosystem. I don't believe publishers would be upset if I could directly purchase books from Apple, Google, Kobo, or any other similar vendor directly on the Kindle.

Is the audiobook market different? I know Cory Doctorow for one would like to sell his audio books through Audible but they require DRM. Care to defend that?


Literally the next sentence:

> If another company offers you a better deal for your creative work and you switch, your audience can't follow you to the new company without giving up all the audiobooks they've bought to date. That's a lot to ask of listeners!

It's not the original copies of your content that are locked forever: it's the copies that Audible has sold to your readers.


> I suspect sooner or later the book industry will have to go DRM-free to break Amazon's ebook stranglehold, in much the same way.

I wonder about this, because the fact is that I really LIKE Amazon's system. It doesn't matter where music comes from, I listen to it over and over and usually listen to each song totally.

But with books, it takes more than 3 minutes to read. The fact that all my stuff (Kindle App, Kindle, website) know my place and sync all that stuff is very handy. It's the main reason I use Kindle over physical books.

If you load non-DRMed eBooks onto Kindle my understanding is you don't get that functionality for them and I'm guessing no one would have the power to force Amazon to implement that feature. The end result is that Amazon's DRMed books may be more appealing to me than DRM free options from other places.

As for breaking their monopoly.... Apple tried and the government smacked them down for it.


> There’s a lifetime of interesting books on Amazon

To the extent that the masses of reprinted-as-a-book Wikipedia articles, CC-licensed and public-domain content, or even GPT-generated books don’t sneak into Amazon’s selection.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/apr/27/fake-books-sol...


> There are no books to read

https://dvd.ikso.net/pagxo/en/libro.html

Note that these are merely the books where the copyright has already expired, so they can be freely put online. There is much more of the fresher content.

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