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1/3rd seems really high. FoxConn makes lots of other things besides Apple Products.


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The high margin that Apple makes is domestic (if you are talking US. Europe is a different matter). Foxconn isn't getting that margin.

Apple/Foxconn?

46% of Foxconn revenue comes from Apple (they manufacture iPhones) also Kindles, Xbox, PlayStation 4, Wii U, BlackBerries, lots of of Google's hardware, many Cisco's routers etc.

I disagree. Foxconn employees are employees of Foxconn in name only. They are effectively employees of Apple. No Apple hardware would be produced at the price point, in the quantity needed if Foxconn did not exist. So imo, the revenue per employee of Apple as we are talking about is skewed badly.

Because Apple is Foxconn's most prominent customer and probably their largest as well?

You do realize that Foxconn is a separate company that also produces stuff for such small companies as Samsung, Sony, Microsoft, Google...?

It looks like Apple already goes above and beyond in comparison to many western companies


This.

And besides, isn't Apple something like 0.001% of Chinese manufacturing output? Apple isn't the problem; if anything Apple may well be the strongest force for positive change at Foxconn.


Right but the article appears to mostly be about a single Foxconn facility that produces Apple products almost exclusively.

If Foxconn is essentially the "low margin" half of Apple, then it wouldn't really unskew it totally.

Definitely - the manufacturing that Apple outsources to Foxconn is a cost center for Apple, and a profit center for Foxconn.

The thing is, it's always the same with Foxconn. Apple should know better... (and the same goes for other Foxconn customers)

You never know when they might falter one quarter, with so much riding on so few products. If there's another Foxconn flaw in the hardware for the next iphone or ipad, for example, or what if Steve Jobs leaves, for example, who knows. Labor in China is getting more expensive, too, so Foxconn is looking to India and Vietnam, and they've already complained about how 'difficult' the iphone 5 is to build. Of course a bad quarter still won't seriously damage Apple since it has so much cash in reserve.

Also, the "make iPhones" note in HN submission title is a touch misleading considering Foxconn also makes pretty much everything else when it comes to electronics. I've stopped counting motherboard components I've seen with their logo on it.

I was a bit surprised to see FoxConn there with such a big revenue.

apple captures 60% of profits on its devices while the factory that builds them in China captures only 2%.

now you know why foxconn had suicide nets.


I'm amazed people still trot this out. Foxconn has more employees than many mid-sized cities. Their per-capita suicide rate is lower than that of China as a whole. They make electronics for many of the big consumer electronics manufacturers, not just Apple.

See Foxconn

I wonder what Foxconn, a Taiwanese company and massive Apple manufacturing partner, thinks of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn


D) Apple can have the biggest influence in Foxconn's work policies.
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