You'll see a similar attitude with shopping carts, "it's the cart collector's job to get those" as if that somehow kept the carts from blocking parking spots and walkways in the 30-90 minutes it takes that cart collector guy to come out and get them. My typical response is "so do you piss all over the toilet seat and leave it there because it's the janitor's job to come clean it up?"
I don't get this; this happened at my workplace too, until we installed a coded lock on the restroom (which was otherwise accessible to anyone in the building). What kind of boor has a professional job but can't piss in a foot-diameter hole and is too lazy to clean up when he does so?
Former janitor here: people do this all the time, everywhere. On the scale of terrible things people do in the restrooms, this one is pretty mild -- but don't do it. Have a thought for the person who cleans up your mess.
> Had the driver asked to use your bathroom, he likely would have lost precious time and have been indirectly penalized for it.
What's the alternative? No matter how reasonable the expectations are, there will always be drivers who would rather pee in a bottle and end their shift 10 minutes early than spend 10 minutes finding a bathroom.
> I bet you close the bathroom or stall door when you poop though.
I do, but not because I'm shy someone might see (a glimpse) of me being naked; I do it so that they don't attempt to enter a toilet already in use. I find myself often not closing the toilet in after hours. In fact, I don't close the toilet at home cause I know the people who can enter won't. Except when I poo, I might, because I don't want them to smell it.
> I used to regularly walk into public bathrooms in which someone had used the toilet and simply not flushed it
I use public restrooms once ever two days (sometimes even more) and I very rarely see that. Maybe people in your part of the world are less educated when it comes to using public toilets, or the janitors are not doing their jobs properly (if it matters I live in an Eastern-European capital city).
As for the automatic toilets, I hate them. I only had the displeasure of using them once or twice, and let me tell you, to have that flush of water invade your lower exposed parts all of the sudden while you're doing your toilet-related stuff is not at all nice, quite the contrary. Those toilets are the work of the devil.
> Oh, and there's a clean bathroom in every subway station.
So this will never work in the United States.
Snark aside, every time I ride a BART elevator with a pool of piss on the floor I wonder about this country. Somehow the idea of someone peeing without paying is so offensive that we would rather stand in piss than provide public facilities.
> When you wish to visit the bathroom do so on one of your strolls around the office.
But then they will notice that your break did not coincide with the timer, and (depending on the floor plan of the open office), that you did not head for a walk, but straight for the toilets.
Gas station bathrooms in the US are also not usually free. As a non-white male I've been told frequently they are for customers only, and have had to on many occasions point to a car actively filling up gas so they can see that I am a customer.
That said, I hate this culture though because when bathrooms aren't free, we end up with shit and urine on the sidewalks. Everyone has to poop and if you don't give them a place to do it that poop is still going to come out anyway.
> Just go to one of the countless public toilets outside.
If there even are public toilets, if they are open, if they are in a state to be used (and not just an uncleaned mess), if they are free... plenty of reasons to go to a restaurant to use their toilet.
Which is annoying, because there are only a fixed number of stalls (in my WeWork there are 7 total stalls for all the men in a 7 story building). I hate going from to floor looking for a place to take a shit. Unless you had something really sickening for breakfast or lunch, taking a shit should not take more than 2 minutes. I don't know what people are doing in the bathroom that takes them so long, but I suspect it's people taking a break from their work in privacy.
> how am I supposed to verify that some quick-footed coworker hasn't made their way in during someone's loud flush
Most places with full-coverage stall doors also have occupancy indicators on the outside - if you go in and lock the door, it changes from green to red.
> Bathrooms open to the public always attract garbage humans.
Only people who have hold minimum wage jobs in the service industry know this pain.
Everyone else keeps talking about treating people like humans never having seen the ugly side.
Like, for example, the side where you walk in on these fucks shooting up and then they threaten your life on the spot and leave a mess for you to clean.
Yeah, hard to have any compassion left when you've done that day in and day out while getting paid minimum wage and then going back to shit customers at the counter.
The easiest decision, is therefore, to close your bathrooms to everyone and discriminate equally. And maybe, only let the pregnant women and truckers use them.
> If the driver had knocked on our door and asked to use our bathroom, I'd have absolutely invited him in. This happened with a Fedex driver once before. That person ended up leaving pee on the seat, which was pretty gross.
What with all the sorts of people in the world, how many folks would've invited them in vs. thinking the driver was weird and potentially reporting the action?
Asking to use your restroom (during pandemic times) seems pretty likely to trigger a customer complaint possibly even one as pleasant as "They were courteous and didn't leave a mess, but why are they being forced to use residential bathrooms, don't they have time off to pee?" - that's a complaint that doesn't reflect poorly on the driver at all but may still end up getting the driver fired if it causes a PR stink.
Without stronger labour laws and without a union drivers are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Do you piss all over the toilet seat because the janitor is coming around no matter what? It's the same basic idea
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