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Very true... But from what I remember, he demoed for a bunch of research teams as well, which would require a bit more sleight of hand than fooling the average venture capitalist gambling other people's money.

In any case, it's one of those crazy stories.



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Bullshit .. who is behind it ? Seems very shady to let loose and hide behind some no names that went to some well known schools or worked for a unicorn. Hmm ... whoever is behind it , isn’t probably liked too much by the science community and came up w that idea to further his own business interests as it seems that his own company ain’t very productive or innovative anymore

> In early October 2013, Guillory met with 28-year-old Vogt, a self-proclaimed MIT drop-out who had spent a month to earn a degree in installing Microsoft Windows, and whose most impressive technical achievement by his own account was to build a device to crack certain kinds of high security safes. But Vogt had a shared interest in the emerging self-driving field from his days at MIT and its entry in the DARPA challenge. More importantly, Vogt had millions in capital from his successful sale of two previous start-ups in TV and video gaming, along with investor contacts.

Can someone shed light on this paragraph? Twitch sold for $1B, so it's probably a bit disingenuous to take so many digs at Kyle's expertise & accomplishments... If anything, Kyle's software expertise is just as (if not more!) valuable than Jeremy's MechE skills for the early Cruise product.

EDIT: Also, I'm pretty sure Kyle worked on MIT's DARPA entry [1]. At the very least, I know he was working with laser rangefinders -- I wrote an article back in 2008 using photos of his SICK LRF teardown [2]. If anything, after reading this "he stole my expertise/idea" claim, I'm more inclined to side w/ Kyle & sama.

[1] http://web.mit.edu/6.111/www/s2005/PROJECT/Groups/15/main.ht...

[2] http://www.hizook.com/blog/2008/12/15/sick-laser-rangefinder...


Here's a totally speculative hypothesis: He started IV as a sort of Xerox PARC that would also make money; the idea was to hire really smart researchers, advance the state of the art, and license the results to other companies to productize. This didn't work (perhaps the research was low-value because it was disconnected from the needs of the market, or perhaps technology transfer is really hard) and rather than admit defeat they pivoted into patent trolling.

He has degree in science and was admitted in the Stanford's PHd physics program before dropping out to do business. And he has billions dollars behind his investments, not Kickstarter.

I think he probably had multiple goals in mind but it mainly looks to me like someone who wanted to make money by getting in good with the people doing fundamental research so that he could have an inside track on new technologies and new products that would be reaching the market. It's what I would do (not the pedo shit, that is beyond perverse).

Or this? John Rohner, claimed that he'd developed tested and patented a "plasma engine" fueled by inexpensive and abundant noble gasses. He also claiming that he graduated from Harvard at 14 and had 3 Phds from M.I.T. Somehow he managed to dupe 98+ investors

Oh wow, they presented him as "Chief Scientific Officer" and co-founder in their pitch deck (page 8 of the PDF) ... and then 2 years later they say he was actually an unpaid intern so they'll refuse to pay him and/or give him any equity.

Enjoyed reading this. You need to have a specified character to take that level of career / financial risk. He seems to be curiousity driven above all else. Hope he's continuing to do cool stuff after his PhD. From how the field seems to develop, it might be quite likely.

Maybe the narrative would feel more accurate if it emphasized him as a business guy funding invention?

I actually met him at the start of this (Erlangen), it feels even more weird if you think about how much data you can correlate if you have more than one persons data. This could be big - you will probably get millions of funding even pre launch.

The title's a bit clickbait. He was one member of a panel in one segment of a fairly dull and sparsely attended investment conference. It took me ages to track down when he even appeared but here it is for what it's worth:

Program: https://futureinvestmentinitiative.com/en/programs/solving-t...

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UWx1hbhpOU&feature=youtu.be...


Yeah, that also struck me as very odd.

Assuming all the other claims are true, my best explanation is that this guy's research is coming out of left field, and so he is not very familiar with how the industry works, and so he can't be certain of anything when it comes to how his research will be used.


he is of course, lying. He has started an AI startup and is pumping it.

Right, but for this to work, that cohort has to include some incredibly talented people with relevant experience so the pool he can draw from is vanishingly small.

I doubt people like Hinton or LeCun or any of their successors in the field would come anywhere near that crazy charlatan.


"At 74, he’s been an inventor-in-residence at Intellectual Ventures, a technology research and patent firm, for about a decade."

He works for IV which is a notorious patent troll and the article reads like native advertising / submarine PR for IV i.e. IV paid for the article. Does this guy actually invent things (that he strives to make real) or does he just waste his time submitting new patents for IV to use for its exhortion schemes?


The guy who’s now a senior executive at a very large public company making quite good money and was very well regarded in the field for a long time for making a breakthrough discovery?

He's obviously a very smart guy, though involved mainly at a high level as a technology advisor for future developments.

But his students often get jobs at iRobot afterwards, like this guy: http://people.csail.mit.edu/bpadams/

As both the founder of a number of companies and a big guy at CSAIL, he has plenty of good stories to tell.


I was surprised to find that it's a somewhat diverse team with a fair amount to lose if the paper turns out to be a fraud.

This leaves the last two possibilities:

- Rossi was somehow able to hoodwink fairly capable scientists (inject extra power into the E-Cat without them noticing),

- or he's actually built something interesting.


So he was looking to build his own AI chips with a company he owned and supply them to OpenAI? And enlist SoftBank for funding? Isn’t this very similar to Adam Neumans tactics?
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