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Upload speed is not a linear function of TX power?


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It’s not a lie – they can’t provide upload speeds anywhere near their download speeds. 20 Mbps vs 6 Mbps is still quite small compared to 1000 Mbps. DOCSIS 3.1, the latest and not fully deployed standard goes up to 10Gbps down and 1Gpbs up.

It looks like DOCSIS 4.0 is actually a path forward to symmetric upload/download speeds over the same cables


That's definitely not true, on a 1gigE connection I was uploading at well over 200mbit/sec.

I hate asymmetric connections. You get gigabit download but something stupid like 20-100 Mbps upload? Just why... Upload speed matters just as much as download these days.

Lower upload vs. download speed is an inherent technical limitation of the technologies (generally) used for domestic Internet connections - xDSL/Cable. From the ISPs perspective, there is often no reason to explicity limit end-user upload speed, since upstream they're buying symetrical links/

That's kind of standard with DOCSIS. You can't have a lot of upload speed due to the available bandwidth for upload channels.

At what point do limited upload speeds actually slow down your downloads due to TCP overhead?

I suppose this is download speed. what about upload speed?

My upload is about 10 times slower that download - that's the A in ADSL.

As it's about 2.5Mbps up and 25Mbps down I'm not hugely bothered - we have 100Mbps symmetric fiber connection at work and it's generally only noticeably faster when you do multiple gigabyte downloads.


Symmetry isn't totally arbitrary. In many deployed access technologies, scaling head end send speed is easier than scaling user end send speed; sometimes there are settings to increase upload speed at the expense of download speed (ex annex M for adsl2), but sometimes it's an inherently asymmetric system.

So, what about upload speeds?

Strange I too have a higher upload than download speed on speedtest.net (usually 75 down, 80 up - or so)

I wonder if I'm the only one with better upload than download...

$ speedtest

   Speedtest by Ookla
     Server: Windstream - Chicago, IL (id = 17384)
        ISP: Webpass
    Latency:     0.93 ms   (0.10 ms jitter)
   Download:   847.27 Mbps (data used: 642.6 MB)                               
     Upload:   936.79 Mbps (data used: 445.7 MB)                               
Packet Loss: 0.0%

(maybe this is because of other users in my building...)


Yeah, upload speeds are rarely limiting in most households.

It is usually the network quality for the uplink which creates problems, issues like packet loss, jitter, sudden b/w drops etc become more prominent, When the rated capacity is "20" we rarely get 20 consistently, it is "up to 20" with all that entails.


No upload speed results?

Except residential upload speeds are usually only 1/10th of the corresponding download speed.

The worst is the highly one directional connections too. Sure I have a gig down. I have 25mbps up though. The upload is the same for every package from 300mbps down and above. I'd happily have less download for more upload.

One problem is still asymmetric upload/download speeds for many (most) home connections.

Often upload is 10x slower than download.


10% of my upload bandwidth is a megabyte a second. That's enough for most of my upload usage - backup primarily, and the occasional youtube video.

Your perspective on upload vs download may change a bit when your connection gets better. I think a 9:1 ratio of download to upload is the right thing for most consumers. Ideally, the connection would rebalance based on demand, but I don't know enough about xDSL technology to know why that isn't possible.


As mentioned by someone else, yeah, this is almost certainly the TCP ack thing. If you throttle back the upload about 10KB/s under your max upload speed, it won't choke your download ability.
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