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AI models are essentialy knowledge and information, but in a different file format.

Books should not be burned, nobody should be shielded from knowledge that they are old enough to seek and information should be free.



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Need to burn all the AI books

fully agree. AI should cite and reference the material it's using

I reckon these books or any other learning material will be sold with access to a trained AI on the subject.

So basically the expert/author will help fine tune the model.


> AI is hard for me to understand

Periodic reminder that the lessons (of classical AI - the base) of the late Prof. Patrick Winston, MIT, are freely available (at MIT OpenCourseware, also on YT).


Sounds good. How about an AI introductory book, if you have any?

I have actually read the majority the AI book, it was the course textbook for the AI paper I did at university. The reason it is there is because I want to re-read parts for a project that I have never started.

I don't know anything about what you're talking about. Where do I start to learn some of the AI terminology, models, benefits and drawbacks of each, etc?

Surely there's a book on this? Maybe we shouldn't let the AI read it...

Leave it to an AI company to gatekeep knowledge every kid can find in the same textbooks that were mined for training data.

Developing ai models

My sincere apologies but I don't think this conversation is going anywere. I would prefer to end it here.

For an introduction to AI, I recommend the classic AI textbook by Russel & Norvig, "AI, A Modern Approach". Go for the most recent edition you can find.


If a person can read it and learn from it, AI should be able to do the same.

From my little experience with the AI community, I think people in it love to obfuscate things. Any attempt to make a topic approachable, even if some of the details are lost, get smacked around. I face this every day in my Masters. If you don't already come with a knowledge of AI + Stats, you're on your own. The community, including the teachers, don't want to teach the mundane.

What are your favorite books on AI?

I've read the book from Peter Norvig and Stuart Russell (Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach [1]) which was great but now I'd love to work with more practical material.

Things like code samples in python, showcasing the use of GPUs with CUDA or OpenCL for practical purposes etc.

I can keep searching the web and work with that but reading good books adds another dimension.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Artificial-Intelligence-Modern-Approach-3rd/dp/0136042597


I wouldn’t worry too much on a lot of these points.

I won’t say the math behind AI is simple, but it’s mostly undergrad level. You can get up to speed on it if you really want to. The hard part is writing fast implementations, but many others are already doing this for us.

We do not have a grand theory of AI or a deep understanding, but every year we make improvements in machine understandability, and you can “debug” models if need be.

Lastly, the author is right, the best models are closed source, but open source is hot on its tail. There are plenty of good local LLMs and they get better every month. Unfortunately it still is out of reach for a hobbyist to train a good LLM from scratch, but open source pretrained models can mitigate this for now.


AI in 2019 is useful math + programming.

AI in books is impossible in 2019.

I don't cringe, but then again, my boss is really happy with the AI program I built. Maybe its time to change definitions or terms.


"7, knowledge bases, is particularly concerning on that list. A truly intelligent AI shouldn't require humans to input knowledge about the world into it, it should be able to learn it itself."

Isn't that the point of school?


I agree it's a great book but IMO it's important to understand that modern AI is about:

1. Classification and Learning (aka is that apple ripe? or what's the best website for a given search?)

2. Modeling / Machine vision (Where are the rocks around this rover.)

3. Goal Seeking (AKA what's the best path from here to DC.)

With enough resources we can do any of the above fairly well. So using AI is more about understanding how to link the above activities to some useful problem. AKA control a rover when your ping is 15 min or solve a CAPTCHA.


The classic 6.034 of [Classic] Artificial Intelligence from the late Prof. Patrick Winston is "mandatory".
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